Describe astringent for me…it was definitely a chemical smell, and something maybe close to stinky armpits with a couple. I’m pretty sure I gave all the seeds away, but I might have a dozen left from my repro if you’re interested. It didn’t strike me as being speedy at all. It was kind of a downer buzz for me.i grew it 12 12 from seed, and harvested late because the flower time was listed at 10-14 weeks… It was more like 8-10 weeks and I picked past peak potency at week 12. So it certainly would have been more potent had it been older plants and picked at peak. Honestly, I probably didn’t give it a fair shake. I was looking for that anise smell, and speedy high, and unlike 99.9% of the people out there, I was mad that it was fast flowering, lol.
Wanted to give everybody heads up that love.of.landrace on instagram is having a sale right now. Apparently he is selling stuff super cheap to celebrate his second year in business. He has kwazulu and probably that 80’s Durban, too( long flowering at 18 weeks or so). Its only a 2 day sale. Scoop em up!
I would call b s on it too if it’s pure durban, But I could believe a hybrid with something like thai could bring the percentage up that high. Kwazulu can be 19% and a frozen 70’s Thai sample tested recently at 15% thc and 15% cbd… So there is potential to have a thc dominant 70’s Thai plant clocking in at 30% thc. No doubt it would be strange to only contain Thc, but Durban is all thc, and Thai can be all thc…as far as major cannabinoids go. I don’t think they tested for much else back then, did they? Cbd I think, but others. I’m not sure.
I agree that every plant testing twenty eight percent seems a huge stretch… But i’m blown away by the potency of some of these old strains.
73 Durban, getting chunky at week 14😁
I can believe this as some of the Thai I’ve seen have been up there with the strongest hybrids I’ve grown but the high is markedly different, not as debilitating or as heavy so it doesn’t always feel as strong. I’d be very surprised if plants like this were ever the norm across a population though, 30% is probably about getting close to the upper limits of the plant. Idk if I’ve ever seen a plant that was 30% trichomes let alone thc.
You have to wonder how much these levels would start to decrease the plant’s ability to photosynthesise.
SA sativas are not short flowering in situ.
And central american lines are long flowering, as are the SE Asian area you highlighted.
They only throw some plants that are shorter flowering ex situ.
But, what you did circle are regions where governments and their organized crime orgs came in and hybridized local lines for international commercial production. South Africa, SE Asia, Colombia, Nicaragua, Congo, etc were all hubs for international trafficking of weed and other drugs. Thats why shorter flowering lines can be found there, but it doesn’t mean that the pure native lines are quick flowering.
but south africa is situated in subtropics and all other regions you mentioned are under tropical belt. so there have to be some differences, as plants adapt…
and yes, lesotho, swazi or ciskei are not 16 weekers for sure. different to true tropical cultivars imo.
hmmm that doesnt sound good LOL downer buzz…
astringent means that it shrinks, so kind of sour… sour like unripe fruits.
durban, it was anise, but now it is more lemony cola like…
is Rif at the Equator?
@MAHAKALA. @allotment and @GreenBhoy both found nice plants from the seeds i passed out. I think allotment just smoked some of the last of his recently on a hike for mushrooms. Greenbhoy grew a whopper that nearly finished in the UK. Massive tree.
Oh I agree. The stars would have to align for a 30% landrace Thai plant.
South Africa is strange in that regard. I’ve done a lot of research into the flowering times from this region, with help from people that live there. Pure Swazi Red was a 20 weeker. Lesotho 14-18 weeks…( but a 12 week Lesotho is not unheard of, due to elevation)
Kwazulu/ Durban and Transkei are 18+ weekers. It’s really strange. I’ve been saying for quite some time that the flower times don’t match the latitude. They should be faster. What is a 20 week Swazi doing at 30 degrees s latitude, as you say, in the Sub Tropics? But, then I look at India, at the foot of the Himalyas, and we have Kullu at 16-20 weeks…at 30 degrees( 29) n latitude, too. So it happens. In Nepal, too, where some plants live 2 years. (Most Indian lines from this latitude are in the 12-14 week range)
My guess is that South African genetics came from and developed somewhere else that encouraged long flowering, and that South Africa’s unusually warm climate for its latitude allowed for the longer flower time to remain unchanged. Just my guess on the matter. Kind of an Enigma. Central America lies closer to the tropics, yet has some faster flowering strains than South Africa. Madagascar appears to have faster plants, too. Mexico for example. I know some Mexican genetics originally came from Pakistan, Lebanon, and most likely China, all Northern latitudes, and this could explain some of the faster flowering times found. So that makes me think the opposite must be true for South Africa. I think Angola was one source. Indonesia another. Mozambique for sure, a third. Surely others as well.
Ciskei may have faster plants. I’m aware of Tropical seeds version, and no one has proven there are Indica genes in there, so it’s possible the very bottom of south africa towards the cape could have faster flowering plants, but my friend from South Africa doesn’t think that was a traditional growing area. Anyone aware that it was?
I recommend getting in touch with Love of Landrace for more details on the Kwazulu/Durban, Transkei/ Lesotho area. I don’t recall who told me about Swazi Red going 20 weeks, but it was a native. It’s suspected to be gone or nearly so. That weed show on TV also listed Swazi Red as 20 weeks with 0% cbd.
@MAHAKALA that Durban photo:drooling_face:
damn! That looks nice! I talked with SnowHigh about my bad Cannabiogen Durban and he thinks poor parents were chosen for the generation I got. Offspring should be better. I know the line is held in high regard.
did you see my post about temperatures worldwide?
it shows an unusual high average annual Temperature for its latitude in South Africa… So,…
Almost a Tropical type annual Temperature…
35.0000° N, 4.0000° W
Sorry, my previous posts were not convincing:
Kullu Mint / axtermperature:
Swaziland Min MAX Temperature:
you see in Kulu its Ass cold, colder then where i live, the highest Temperatures, at daytime are below freezing…
So, how can you question why no Tropical Floweringitmes are
Ok, it might be a bit loong Swazi finishing in 18 weeks, the Climate is very similar to the very southern Marroco… ok…
yeah, probably a bit special… i personally would grow Thai in Morroco all year tho…
i would have to see allll floweringtimes from many places to say if it looks odd, or impossible to be pure swazi.
yeah finally, looking at it again i give you right!
the kullu example was ust off cause temps are very low there.
But wait: actually i see that this 35 Degree roundabout is vastly super dry all around the world. Or in China its all high plateau. so its more cold and not mediterranean…
Exemption is India? Paraguay and such?
How are paraguayan floweringtimes, that would be interesting to compare . its the only not dry, not high place at 35 Degree LAtitude
no, im actaully confused again i dunno man
Or you could take my word for it because I have studied those flowering times.
From what I understand kullu was From a more tropical indian location and was grown briefly in the area. It’s even possible that only the seeds were collected there and they were not even originally local. Its the same situation in Pulga, Where there are many plants that die before finishing. Some die before they are even properly flowering…That would not occur if it was a local strain imo. Mostly feral plants in Kullu today. It is surprisingly cold there. Shocking for the latitude and elevation. Makes me think the seeds were not local…ever.
They are also long flowering and were originally imported from columbia And Brazil. Some parts of paraguay are tropical.
oh, yeah then i get a different picture than you. Namely, amost the whole 35 Degree is dry, or high altitude, hence the only “normal” place is southamerica like paraguay, and south africa, and some mid india… hence only there we see non-weird floweringtimes. Namely 18 weeks or such