36 Watts or Bust!

Thanks for taking the time. I’m new to the site, very nice to see people encouraging others.

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Plant looks awesome, that is just an incredible use of light and space there!

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Why? You got years worth of catching up to do yet bro! :laughing:

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Hahaha I feel like I’ve been playing catch up since 14

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Definitely stop. It’s a complete waste of time and leads to nothing but poor health and regrets.

Or, continue…

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Yea I think it’s time.

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I chopped it yesterday at exactly 10 weeks. I did a bit more looking with the binos and micro and from what I could tell I was mostly cloudy with a sprinkling of amber here and there.

In Ghandisflipflop’s thread his Blue Mystic looks really crystally! Mine, well it’s got trichromes but doesn’t look anything like what Ghandis got!

It took me about an hour to chop and trim, I’ve never done this before, and other than handling little popcorn buds from bags of schwag I’ve come across here and there, I’ve never really properly saw a decent bud let alone handle and trim one.

First you’ll see that cluttered underbrush, still kinda green but fuzzy:

Here’s the stem, you can see that big browned over knuckle on the lower right where I almost thought I ripped one of the stems right off the plant. That cola that almost tore was the second largest cola on the plant!

Here they are hanging, once they’re dry we’ll go for final weigh in.

Finally here are the bulbs I used to start this whole thing. The LED world moves fast, because I went to the local home box store to get a replacement set just in case and I can’t find this series of LED lightbulb ANYWHERE.

I’m going to keep testing the stems then jar them as soon as their ready, weigh in and smoke report to follow!

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This is awesome! Never heard of such a grow setup and now I’m looking (kinda) at beautiful homemade product from it. Can’t wait to see more!

Also, have you given consideration to the led grow lights from Wally World? They’re “75w equivalent” and red/blue, 24” long, and link together. 2-3 would work perfectly I would imagine?

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Very awesome really for what your working with. I’m impressed they finished so thick.

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Hey Boxy, I love ATHF!

I was going to look at those bigger GE COBs, they have a 13 watt COB, I might be able to stuff 4x13 watt COBs and bolt them to the heatsink and see how that does. The entire COB/Heatsink design was built to minimize heat buildup, since I have a pretty high temp grow area.

I was even contemplating bolting a 72 watt Solstrip directly to the heat sink, then back off the intensity to find the “Sweet Spot” in terms of heat/light, that might be the way to go since you can dial it in pretty precisely!

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So after drying for five days, I’ve finally jarred the harvest. For some reason I got three days stuck in my head for drying, I don’t know where I got that number but I did.

After three days of hanging though, the stems didn’t snap like they should. They bent.

I kept them in a room with a fan and a dehumidifier. The humidity in the drying room was probably 35~45% RH.

I finally tested them on Sunday night which was almost five days and they were very crispy! I think I dried them a little too much.

The buds are also not tight nugs like you see in the store, they’re kind of fluffy airy popcorny buds. Four or five of the really big buds are dense, but they don’t look like bud porn!

I jarred them, and found the mummy buds were dropping the humidity of the jar! They sunk the RH to about 45% humidity. I popped a damp paper towel in the jar for a few hours, and by breathing into the jar got the buds right at 63% RH. Now I’m worried they’re too damp hehe! I’m burping and once I get them stable I’ll seal it up with a 62% Boveda and quit obsessing.

My final weight of the buds when they were really dry was 1.5 oz, or 49 grams. I’m pretty happy with the result! I was shooting for at least an ounce, so I’m pleased there.

Here are all the buds sitting in the jar:

At some point I’m waiting for them to tighten up into little balls, but I don’t think that’s going to happen, either that’s properly grown weed, or maybe industrially separated / trimmed from the plant.

The bag appeal on this stuff is well heh.

I haven’t tried any of this yet, but I’ll make sure I write a full report when I do. Currently I have a batch of smoke that’s like a time warp, you chuckle a little bit, then realize it’s like four hours later. I’m hoping this variety doesn’t blow through time like a guild navigator lol!

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All right, the flowers have been sitting in the jar for a little over two weeks now. Of course I’ve tried some before they’ve cured to this point cause even I couldn’t wait till they were done!

Initially the smell of the plant was very weird, I was telling Ghandi’s Flip Flop that while it was growing it smelled like a normal vegging skunky cannabis plant.

During flowering the smell changed again, it was a kind of chemically bug spray / kerosene / artificial candy blueberry smell.

Ghandi nailed it, when it was growing it had an artificial flavor of blueberry, sort of like if Willy Wonka made a blueberry aroma artificially. Of course mixed with the bug spray / fusel oils hah!

As they were curing I got that sweet tea leaf smell. Now the smell is overwhelmingly sweet and it smells like natural blueberries! I would have thought you were pulling my leg if you told me it smelled like blueberries. In the background you can still smell a hint of that piny bug spray/fusel oil but the main note is sweet blueberries!

I initially went a bit too dry when I jarred them, when drying they take quite a while to get crispy to where the stem snaps, but when they get to that critical stage, if you’re not keeping a close eye, they can quickly get TOO dry and I think that’s what I did in terms of drying.

I stuck them in the jar and stuck a damp paper towel in there with them till they absorbed a bit more moisture, I removed the towel when they got to around 62% RH.

I sprung for some Bodeva 62s but I don’t really need them, once you have a little gauge in the jar it’s just a matter of burping to get them to the sweet spot.

Bodevas might be useful to jar straight from harvest to keep it at that humidity, but once you get your process locked in, they’re just one more thing that you have to worry about and spend money on in my opinion. I would have loved them back in my cigar days.

The buds are kinda leafy, I notice a lot of other buds from around the net are tight and compact, almost like coco puffs, I get the impression that these dense buds are a product of superior light and nutrients. In the tiny little computer case with only 3200 lumens the buds that I’ve grown just don’t get enough energy to create those dense packed buds. Some of the buds from the main cola look this way, but the popcorn buds are leafy.

That being said I can’t seem to notice any drop in potency, it smokes just like the other flower I’ve been able to get my hands on.

I vape these with a Magic Flight, and the taste is kind of a spicy sensation on the back of the throat. I wish my pallet was a bit more sophisticated so I could give a better description, but I can’t really detect a blueberry taste when vaping. It’s mainly a piny/citrusy aftertaste in the back of the throat.

It’s a great relaxing smoke, if you don’t overdo it you can easily function in a nice happy way, if you keep going though, you’ll definitely want to stay still for a while. It’s not racy nor does it give rise to rumination like some of the other types I’ve had. I couldn’t have asked for a nicer variety to grow. Blue Mystic is such a fun easy plant, and it stays small with a low odor so in my very limited experience is the perfect micro grow variety!

Here is a shot of one of the main colas, you can see how it’s not too dense:

Oh and back in December, when I was tending the first plant, I managed to rip off a tiny little stem which was not a fan leave. I saw that Reiko cloned his cuttings in a shot glass filled with perlite. I filled a yogurt cup with some perlite, cut the shoots stem at 45 degrees and dunked it in some powdery rooting compound.

I filled the yougurt cup a little way with water, and kept the cutting under a counter light for a long time. It took the little cutting a while to root, but it stayed alive with that weak counter light. It started to even grow a little bit. By the time I harvested it’s parent, it was very well established in it’s yogurt cup with a decent root system.

I transplanted it, and loaded it back into the PC to see how this one would do:

I would say one of the biggest takeaways from this experience is to let the plant do the driving. At times I wanted to micro manage everything and over-correct constantly.

I noticed that if I started chasing every little sign the plant displayed I was just making it angry. It really started doing great when I just left it alone. Look at me giving advice with one whole grow under my belt lol! If it didn’t take so long, or if I lived in a legal state, I’d just grow another one and abuse it to see how much better of a grow it was than the one I’d baby.

I think I also owe a lot to the variety itself since this variety seems almost designed exactly for a constrained PC grow, it’s short, squat, and forgiving.

And finally I wouldn’t have been successful if it wasn’t for the amazingly helpful folks here at Overgrow. You’ve are so welcoming and kind to newcomers who have so many questions. I’ve been privy to many online communities in the past and I’ve got to say Overgrow is one of the most forgiving and helpful places I’ve posted on in quite some time. The seasoned regulars here are a credit to the scene indeed.

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I have had issues with fluffy or airy buds and for the longest time I would compare them to my outdoor grows and just couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t get the same density and I know alot of things have an effect on bud density but in the end I found it was my lights I found the more light I gave them the better the bud quality or density was

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