only 4 stars?? joking
It seemed like an idea too good to work, but it actually did without any problems, im shocked! not like me at all… although we’ll see how the grain comes out, hopefully the pressure cooker kills off anything they may have picked up from the cheesecloth
Those are Michelin stars! (I know, they only count to three)
Cheers
G
More work for me today! I like to keep busy and now i’ve spawned my jars, I can start staggering them and get back into making agar dishes to have a continuous cycle
I have a good system going at the moment, will see how well it works.
Day 1 - wash grain and soak in water + coffee + gypsum for 24 hours
Day 2 - Simmer grain for 15 mins, steam dry, and collect boiled water for use later. Add grain to jar and pressure cook for 90 mins. Leave for 12-24 hours (usually next day)
Day 3 - Use grain water to make agar. I did grain water agar before but for some reason it didnt solidify properly, so I did another test and it worked (although it wasnt pressure cooked). Gambling to try it again to see if it works out this time, hopefully, if not that’ll be 20 dishes I’ll have to throw away 
Agar solidifies fairly quickly - about an hour or so after taken out of the pressure cooker so during that time I clean out the room, spray everything down and wait for it to cool enough to use. I use glass bottles of a drink “Fentimans cola” its botanically brewed and tastes awesome albeit quite expensive, but they fit perfectly in my pressure cooker and I can put in about 200ml each bottle which can fill about 5 dishes each (4 x 5 = 20)
Today I poured 20 dishes (plus about 5 more as I had a bit left over), made spore syringes, and inoculated 4 more grain jars.
Once the dishes are poured, they need to sit for a few hours to cool, I usually leave it a day to help reduce condensation.
Made 4 more spore syringes from the spores collected the other day
The 2 either side was made from my original Fiji grow - I did have 3 but one of them was used for my current BRF grow. Apparently I used way too much water last time, and way too little water this time 
These new syringes will last forever, water is supposed to be clear(ish)
4 more jars inoculated with the dishes used under. They are all different plates, will hope to see if there’s any growth speed differences but my ultimate goal is to have 1 dish of monoculture for all 4 jars
Incubator currently. Top 4 were made 3 days ago and are already showing great signs of growth
Very jealous of your setup but I got sterilized grain on the way. Fingers crossed boiled water works but I got a 3ml syringe ordered too so I can have a bit of a spread, it’s getting harder to find pre sterilized bags online for cheap but I found a few at around 7 quid per lb which is better than the 25+ on etsy! I got my eye on one of my clear storage boxes in the attic except it’s full of stuff haha.
I wouldn’t worry about the clarity of the water just about how much you want to make as it can come cloudy like yours from the online shops.
I originally bought all my spore stuff from www.cylocybe.com - they were pretty good and they sell sterilised tubs, bags, and jars. I have a lot of stuff, but once you have that stuff you wont need to buy them again and you’ll save in the long run from buying grains and spores etc. The PC is good as well because you can use it to make food so it definitely is worth its value.
Yeah pressure cooker is on my to buy list but for now 10 quid total for 1lb of spawn in a month ish which yields 10 + dried grams sounds like an excellent yield especially when I don’t have to spend the days working on prepping like you are.
I got the syringe from cylocybe but their tubs and bags are a little pricey I got mine off eBay this time.
Well now I have some syringes I can start seeing about giving them out. Do you want to be the first to test one?
I would love to mate, feel free to pm me an email when you are ready and we can organise from there?
Seems like I’m always just checking when you post but eh. Love what you are doing and it spawns questions for me haha! got your email by the way, Thank you again and I’ll be watching for the postie.
Is that a single flush from your tub? If so I’d love to know a bit more detail on the size of your tubs. Mine are looking like they will be an inch or so deep in a 13 by 8 inch tub. Apologies if you have already mentioned this in previous posts, memory is short and reading back over things every time isn’t my forte.
No worries! I like questions, it provokes conversation and adds to the wealth of knowledge of the internet 
This was 2 flushes. Had one big flush that I picked over a couple days, then I soaked the substrate in another tub for about 6 hours and then put back into original tub, then harvested another load over a couple days adding to about 14g dry total. This grow was made with 7 140ml BRF jars with about a 1:1 ratio with coco for the substrate
These are the tubs I use, from B&Q
This is my lil tent
In each lid I have a little hydrometer hotglued. Super useful, I have the same ones minus the external rod for my curing jars
This is the first rye grain tub. 6x 490ml jars of rye grain inoculated with Fiji agar with coco + vermiculite + gypsum more info
This is my setup. its a bit messy atm though
Ooh that’s right i can bulk it out with coco, was figuring id just case it in vermiculite and be done. I like your setup and doubly sealed with that tent is pretty cool.
My setup is literally a tub ontop of my grow box/shelves with the lid cracked. Temps are kept up by the grow box and I just tune the humidity by watching the condensation on the lid and walls, less means close it and drops forming that look like they could fall means crack it open more.
Now Bob, that is true ol’school!
My youngest is ‘hot to trot’ on growing 'shrooms. I keep pointing him at 7’s thread…
Cheers
G
Yeah man, they are surprisingly hardy once fully colonised and i figure if they do it like this then why give em more 
just got to make more tubs! Then more shelf space haha
A thing to note is the shelf is above the top of the window so they are never got directly by light and any contamination is pulled immediately and outside of tubs and shelf are cleaned weekly ish on the soaking day.
If they need some links here’s a few bookmarks I have
Updated PF Tek Guide - Mushroom Cultivation - Shroomery Message Board
Very simple grain tek. Easy as the PF tek. - Substrates - Shroomery Message Board
Rye bitches RYE !!! - Substrates - Shroomery Message Board
Agar portal - Mushroom Cultivation - Shroomery Message Board
HOLY CRAP!
What a library! Thanks!!
I’ll pass those links on (they are gold)
Cheers and Thanx
G
I decided in the end not to adjust the feeding, and im glad I did because growth has exploded and them seem to have gotten over the N toxicity, which im thinking now was just transplant shock.
Some great node spacing coming along, you can tell they are satvias. Will veg these girls for another 2 weeks or so and then start looking at making clones. Need to find some good links to do cloning, I always get stuck on which nodes to cut and which nodes to leave to grow. I read that you shouldnt clone from a clone, but how do people keep producing them if they dont do that? surely you cant keep a mother alive for that long?
Thought you might be amused by this or had a similar experience last time was a free 3ml syringe and this time…
My first order I got a lil choc bar as well as a freebie, but not in the second one. 
