AC Infinity chat bot is useless. Cant find on website either. AC Infinity is very dubious about the specs of this lamp.
Trying to set up my EVO4 and this would def help with PAR mapping.
Stupid AC Chat is still sending me pics of incomplete specs from website, along with pics showing color temps of individual diodes…Tech support being given by people who def arent “techie” types, lol.
Of course, there’s no REAL reviews out there. Just paid people on Youtube showing the lamp without any real info or live stats.
Anyone have information? Would definitely help out.
OK
Get ready to laugh…
Here’s the chat transcript:
Chat started: 2024-01-24 07:50 PM UTC
(07:50:04 PM) James Williams: what is the color temperature of the ionframe evo4 grow light?
(07:50:08 PM) *** Nick joined the chat ***
(07:50:41 PM) Nick: Hello, thank you for reaching out to us today! I would be happy to look into this for you. One moment please while I research your question.
(07:52:03 PM) Nick: For clarification, did you mean the color hue?
(07:53:56 PM) Nick: For reference, you may view this light spec chart for your color reference:
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(07:54:45 PM) James Williams: That does not give me the lamps color temperature.
(07:55:47 PM) Nick: If you need the operating temperature, it is: 32 to 140°F
(07:56:53 PM) James Williams: No, I’m asking for color temperature of the lamp.
(07:58:04 PM) Nick: We do have these specs as well regarding the lamp:
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(07:59:23 PM) James Williams: Nope. That shows me the color temp of the specific chips, but not the lamp as a whole
(08:00:21 PM) Nick: Please view the following full lamp specs:
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(08:01:44 PM) James Williams: Again, that shows color temp of individual chips, but not the lamp as a whole.
(08:03:08 PM) Nick: In regards to your request for that specific information, unfortunately, at this time we do not have this available here at our Customer Support Department.
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Its almost like a comedy routine. Pretty sad, although “Nick” from Seattle was nice enough, lol.
Agreed they don’t publish the same specs as many other grow light manufacturers. Online reviews have repeatedly called out that AC Infinity doesn’t publish all the specs they want to see and instead publish specs that don’t tell the whole story. I’m not suggesting that they’re trying to hide anything, just that they never took the measurements or the engineers didn’t make them available.
Agreed that customer service folks aren’t always “techy”—mostly because they don’t have to be. All CS is typically reading from a script based on keywords in your conversation. If they don’t have it, they don’t have it.
But let’s be real for a moment. Is everything else so perfect in your environment that hanging the light a little too close or too far away by a few inches is going to drastically change your outcome? If so, I applaud you. Because I know it wouldn’t make that much difference in my grow space. I don’t care enough to spend $400-500 for an Apogee meter so I make do with the $5 or whatever I spent to unlock the Full Spectrum LED setting in the Photone app for my iPhone. If it gets me within 80-85% of the actual PAR numbers that’s good enough because I’m going to watch my plants to see if the light’s too close/far away anyway.
The weighted average (between 3000K@360 and 5000K@500) would be about 4100K. Whether that’s entirely valid for a light made of a mixed bag of LEDs, I’m not so confident…
Looking at their spectrum, I thought it looked slightly weak in the blue. Like most LEDs, it’s weak for the spectrum needed for the carotenoids (450~500nm).
(I’ve been wondering about the effects of that lately…)
Same boat here, McSmackers! lol. PPFD App and UNI-T meter. Out the door $50. Great for making PAR maps. But the only way to properly calibrate is to know color temp, which should be easily available.
Why shouldnt they be? AC Infinity is a techy company. Thats the problem. All over this country. Warm bodies to fill positions. Its sad, really.
And yeah, Im the guy who reads instructions, agonizes over every detail and does shit to the nth degree. I want to maximize my grow environment. Whats wrong with wanting to outperform while others seek to just get by?
The part number has 4k in it. Could that be the color temp? A par map from the manufacturer seems to be pretty par for the course, weird choice on their part
Hey there, Nobody!
It could, but in this case I dont think so. The EVO8 lamp ends in 8K, and its def not an 8000k spectrum lamp, lol. EVO10 ends in 10K and so on…
And yet you didn’t look for that info before buying the light? And also somehow didn’t find all the reviews indicating that AC Infinity doesn’t seem to have some measurements? Not being able to track down the info that’s so crucial to your app seems like it would have led to buying a different light that had that info available.
Seems like even with the color temp you’re just hoping the app is accurate, but you’re more than willing to publicly complain about a company’s customer service because they don’t list a measurement that most customers don’t ask for and that generally means less overall than the percentage of each color light in the full spectrum light as listed in the graph they provide.
I mean, if “normal thinking” is defined as “placing the blame on someone else because an incorrect assumption was made about what the other person/company provides”, then I understand but I just don’t think like that. I can admit when I made a poor assumption and it caused me frustration. And right now I admit I made a poor assumption that you’d have a reasonable conversation rather than resorting to logical fallacies (red herring, ad populum, ad hominem so far). Enjoy the drama you’ve created in your mind, but I’m out.
I’m almost afraid to look. I love to tinker and dig into things, but gotta draw the line somewhere, lol. This is a “hobby” after all.
Ok. I looked.
Not as bad as I would have thought. Overkill for this guy growing out of a 2x4, but not quite out of the ball park for someone who likes to fuck around. Under $500.
For what they want for an Apogee Epar meter, this isn’t really that bad, especially when it has way more features than an Apogee for $200 less.
I’ll be adding one to my arsenal shortly, especially since I’ve my 2 rooms, and 4 others around town that have to be dialed in and they are all running UV and far red.
It seems to be a decent deal for what its supposed to do.
I’ll keep it on my short list. Usually after a drama-filled fight with the wife, I like to purchase myself a nice gift. Its been a few weeks, who knows?
Funny, I used to buy her gifts after a fight. Now, I find that I feel much better getting myself something!
if one were to shop around Aliaba.com one would discover AC spider farmer are all made not by them you can get there light same different name seems to be 3 or 4 companies make them all for a few bucks extra they will customize your logo on them and you will run into chinese bot people when asking for any info they just want to complete a sale
I think you are looking for an overall resultant color temperature but this unit has mixed diodes. It has 5k, 3K, plus UV, near-IR, and IR led’s making it complex. The best you can do, if you don’t have an app that allows you to specify each individual diode in your lamps matrix is to make an approximation. Your lamp has the most 5K led’s so start by selecting the 5K temp and if your app allows, specify the other leds too… most apps won’t allow that many variables though so you just need to make a choice from your available selection and live with it being an approximate generalized representation
Yes. Probably true of most any modern major manufacturer LED Grow Light that tries to cover veg thru flower.
My HLG350R, GLS ProGrow320, and now ACI Evo4 all have mixed diodes.
