IMHO you are going to run into the same deal with any of the Original Haze genetics regardless of source . Until an outstanding female is found & proven to be a true breeder , indoors will be an excercise in frustration . IMHO there’s better options than AG .
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I hear ya brudda, and I truly appreciate your advice.
The reason I keep looking is that I’ve got a couple buddies on some property in a more rural area, and we think a real pheno hunt next year might be a damn fine time 
Weed nerds, amiright?
I’m all ears!
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Here’s a tip on breeding Haze. Keep the plants very small so you can grow a lot of them and not take up too much space. You would be surprised how little space you can grow 1000 plants in if you keep them small
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Ain’t nothin wrong with AG Haze. There will be plenty that get you where you want to go. BUT if you want some THH, there’s still some available on Seedbay. MadMac is where a lot of people got it before Tom gave some out recently- (hopefully he does another run, but I wouldn’t count on it)-
Tom Hill Haze – SeedBay
Proseeds also had it, but it looks to be sold out.
MadMac’s Haze – Proseeds
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You could view it that way, one can also argue that the dialogue or discourse that opposing perspectives introduce can bring new understanding. How can you grow with only Yes men around?
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Tom’s Haze is for finding treasure, takes about 30 seeds statistically speaking when growing Tom’s at 5% if just going for female keeper I imagine?
I used AG haze to make some crosses with other genetics to see what Todd’s Haze will do. Crossed a BB female with three of Todd’s OHZ males. Just put some beans in coco and put into the fridge. I checked on them 3 days later and making some progress. Have fridge turned down to slow growth till ready.
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Ha Maha you should change your strain info on the Asian Nevils in regards to the Nevils Haze.
As mother we used old cut of neville´s haze coming from 80s.
Nevils Haze did not exist in the 80s it was late 90s.
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All Haze and all hybrids need selection to find the keepers the closer you can get to the original cross the better.
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Thank you @hempy and @hammerheadgenetics for actually giving this thread some much appreciated info and pics. Your presence is refreshing. It started to feel like a fat and ugly McDonald’s commercial with all the hype for mids, we who actually have tried it knows… There is a reason why there are no elites held of certain lines. Once again, thank you. Much love 
Pz 
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“Pineapple Haze” (Pineapple Gold x Jack Herer) a trash plant i adopted from my bro, light colored not very healthy, at the end it was better than his choosen ones. 
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Oh does that look nice @Foreigner.
Older post but wow I’ll be right over next time ie Panama Malawi
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It was great smoke and great breeding stock. I think I know a guy who has one of the hybrids…
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Selfing the f1’s, the combinations could line up being better than the original because transgressive segregation decided to show up. Yep that makes sense.
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Og x Neville A5 haze at week 9. Didn’t keep any cuts, so this is the last run og her. Did make some seeds with a Goji OG male though…
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Here’s a few of the original haze from agseedco x unicorn poop from thug pug. These 3gave all been dominated by the haze mom in terms of smells and growth pattern. The mom produced loads of 3 leaflet and and daggers like the one in the bottom pic, looking identical to momma haze. The haze mom had massive yields and huge spears. These 3 are following in her footsteps. Smells like cedar, a little pine annd some sandalwood also some funky pungent stuff happening as well. One has a little more floral going on. Took cuts of all 3 just in case, these are all around week 4 of flower…
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Do you know what happend to Fett? I never seen him around after HG420 went down.
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Do you still have the cut you send me some years ago? That was a great plant btw welcome aboard 
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i was told he is not with us anymore ,
his complete absence tends to suggest that may be correct …
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