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There’s a documentary I can’t remember the name about how in the 70s hippies in California brought short flowering seeds back home from Afghanistan/India/Pakistan and combined them with the more traditional long flowering Mexican/Columbian etc varieties to make them more suitable to their climate.
There are many things by the same name and maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.
Long flowering - fluffier buds - higher high = haze
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At this point, I feel like the “Haze” label is just a catch-all for anything that’s stretchy, takes a while to finish and makes people feel “up” (read: racy), as long as it contains just the slightest bit of actual Haze genetics. Breeders have, for decades now, been taking real Haze genetics and crossing them with something, anything, that reduces stretch/flower time, without considering (or caring?) that whatever “Indica” they’re breeding into it is probably also significantly altering the high. You can read those old Dutch “Haze” descriptions where they say,”Shorter plants! Quicker finish! But we still retained that classic Haze high!” And then you blaze it and it isn’t anything at all like any Haze-dominant flower that I’ve ever blazed. “Racy,” sure, but that, to me, isn’t at all what any real long-flowering, tall, stretchy NLD has ever smoked like.
Don’t get me wrong, there are really good examples of Hazes and Haze hybrids out there. But lately I get the feeling that slapping “Haze” on anything that has narrow leaves and takes more than like eleven weeks to finish is the new “thing.” Kinda like how anything crossed with GSC was all the rage for the last 8+ years and, before that, how everybody just slapped “OG” on the end of any hybrid, even if it didn’t grow/smoke like an OG at all.
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This is a pretty interesting read: The Haze story and more. Warning: very long read | International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
You’ll have to “click to expand” on all the posts haha.
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Also the industry is going in the quickest and cheapest direction possible which leads to these mythologies of haze which is the exact opposite of the fast cheap good ethos.
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Yeah, poking around a little, that is what I found. Was originally a super hybrid of landrace genes from India, Thailand, Colombia, Mexican Sativas that came out of Santa Cruz in the 60s. Was then exported to Amsterdam and worked by dutch/American expat breeders. At this point pretty much anything with an energetic/spacey high is at risk of being called “this or that haze”. I’m intrigued by Neville’s Haze, Original Columbian Haze, The Piff, and Church strains.
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You’re just now “poking around a little” about what comprises Haze? Okay, then…
Do they have beavers in Hawaii? Look what happened to my Maui Mango Haze!
She turned a nice bit of magenta.
And she smells sugary.
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I know, I know. Haze is legendary weed, I’ve only ever encountered pineapple haze, but who knows what that really is with all the hype marketing of haze this or haze that.
I had heard the haze brothers story and knew it was supposed to be a cross of hippie landrace Sativas, but have never really delved deep into the history and development of all the Hazes. I’ve only recently gotten to grow and share openly about what I’m growing and doing.
Now it seems that a lot of stuff that is energetic and inspiring just gets the label “haze” slapped on it and that what haze ever actually was is even hazy.
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over the years I stayed away from Haze strains due to their long flower times, But ran some haze strain from MassMedical and like the results - going to run a total haze strain grow - any suggestions ?
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Authentic Genetics has TONS of crosses with an ON Haze male. Rare Dankness has Ghost Train Haze. Top Dawg, Piff Coast, Doc D, AKBB, and a few others have good hazes.
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Thanks ! great information — what is your “go-to” haze strain ?
The first testers of Super Lemon Haze is soooo Hazy. Got that super peppery, spicy Haze kick to it with hints of cloves. Smells like sweet lemon tarts. The taste catches you off gaurd in relation to the smell. Loving it!
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I just picked up their Moonshine Haze which was a Cup winner in 2011 for best Sativa: Amnesia Haze x Nevil’s Wreck (the latter is Trainwreck x Neville’s Haze). They list the flower time as 70+ days which seems rather open ended. Technically that could mean 4 months of flowering… not sure what to expect but I can be patient. It will be my first mostly Haze grow.
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Nice. I just snagged their Tangie x GTH#1 fems. I’m looking forward to those!. I’m on my 2nd haze run, but my first “real” haze run. The first run I had was Purple Haze autos from Seedsman that ended up in the trash due to PM. I’ve got 2 RD GTH#1 and an AG Seed Co. Green Crack x ON Haze in veg. They should be showing sex soon.
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I don’t have a go-to yet. Smoked a bunch of random hazes over the years but this is the first time I’ve run hazes. GTH#1 is good, had a Cerebro Haze which was Brain OG x Tom Hill Haze that I liked a lot. Had a nice Purple Haze source for a bit but I have no idea where the genetics came from. Blue Dream… I can’t say that these embody what the haze is all about though. I’d probably look into Top Dawg, Doc D, and PFC. They’ve done lots of work with Haze. Might be able to sign up on the overflow for @Jinglepot 's SLH run too 
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Looking awesome! I can’t wait to run these just based on your enthusiasm for them!
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If you haven’t seen it, here’s my Moonshine Haze grow report from a while back: Karma Genetics Headbanger, Rare Dankness Starkiller and Moonshine Haze and GPS California Cannon
Only got one female, but she was stretchy for sure. I’m not sure how “hazy” she was, although it was very, very good and enjoyable smoke. Smelled kind of like coconut tanning oil to me, like the shit people used to rub all over their bodies and then lay out in the sun back in the 70’s and 80’s haha. I can actually still smell it. You never forget that smell… haha.
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