I like what I am seeing from Tom’s. I would like to grow out a larger pack of op to learn more about the range within it.
In Nevil’s I have had metal, different hard woods, though not sure which. Sweet floral decay, mango and apricot fruit leather, leathers. Pissy, piney. The piney is nothing like the pine on any hybrid out there or NL for sure. It is a bright sharp nose burner of fir needles. Then there are all the meat, liver, chicken soup and savory which are unique, but I don’t care for.
I have on picture here with a seed pop next to. Regular hybrid stature.
These are haze dominant Nevil’s. I’d pop a big pack of Tom’s just for the curiosity of what is in one that is not in the other or subtle differences.
Sorry fellows for my absence. Tried to conceive a easly driven mid/mid. But I’ve learned again and again. What a O.H. touches can go backwards. Back in the grind
OTH has variations in effect. The good green ones imo are tropical fruit and sour apples. Effects are very caffeinated. Bright and clear. Ceiling-less and very good come down. The last green pure OTH I grew was soap-ish. Cilantro. A bit of a muddled effect. I’m used to the muddier, more introspective effects in the purple OTH’s. They are darker fermented fruit liquor aromas. A bit more discombobulated smoking those. The OTH crosses with Meao Thai were very strong, cold effects. Anti-social. Other Ace OTH crosses each have their own nuances. Panama Haze, very strong…Honduras Haze, cat piss bright happy highs. Kali China Haze…amazing 50/50 hybrid. Others I’m forgetting atm. The ICMag hazes I grew from flower~power were pure grains of paradise aromas. Creeper and like the green OTH, tachycardia inducing. Very clear ‘get shit done’ highs. Tom’s can have some speediness; I can see a strong one bringing the paranoia out. There seem to also be more Mex like faster flowering (denser) phenos, which is likely a lot of the hay in Tom’s eyes. Let’s see how these two new (old seed) ones smoke. The NL5/Haze I grew were definitely hybrid. Like some of the A5 and C5 hybrid gear I’ve grown, very strong medicine…but they all have heavier comedowns. All the random gear that has had haze touch them (like C99) are two hybridized for comparisons.
I’ve grown both NH f3 (hempy) x 2 and THH best (madmac) x 3
All the THH best plants were much shorter flowering than NH f3 and also much shorter and broader in plant structure. I was never able to grow a THH best above 5ft despite all Hazes going well over 7ft …
I feel there’s a few different batches/seed lots of THH going round with varying degrees of indica contamination. Lost tribe even got a full “DC” pheno seedling in a THH from Tom himself via Chimera.
I’ve only grown from the old Tom’s stock I bought many years ago, but they did seem to stay shorter through flower. Let’s see what the new stock looks like when I dig into them. I have two fairly distinct phenos in trim now. The denser, darker pheno…
Ok. Probably a dumb question but just ignore if I am too stupid to live. Greenhouse Seeds. Thumbs up or down re: buying Nevils Haze. If not a good source, is there a good source?
@DainIronFoot Generally, most longtime growers/breeders are skeptical of anything GHS, especially in more recent years.
Green haze 19 A5, or others from Ace, or A5 from karma would probably be a better option. If you can find them… It’s been a while since I’ve seen either one offered.
Green OTH x A5 was a limited addition release, I think. I’ve grown a number of the OTH crosses. For a truly hybrid type (think NL5), try the OTH x Kali China. That’s some strong weed with great mixed effects.
MNS Mr Nice Seeds.
I’ve grown them many times and have had a number of different phenotypes. However, a couple were great and the rest were good. I loved the frankincense flavored one.
