no hard AI, no Eschaton…
some marketing folkss will have to retrain.
they’ve already armed the drones. kill decision given. we control very little. either make your peace or head for the woods.
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Agree.
Politics and rando conspiracy tends to get threads shutdown and, at times, individuals have received the ire of the moderation team … particularly when persistent. Wild, veiled, and improbably connections is not sufficient. Avoid. There are plenty of sites around to expound on politics of the day. OG is not that place.
The OPs topic is about the use and impact of AI.
There are also positive aspects to AI. Keep this thread constructive. Thank you.
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Quite the compliment haha
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ok guys, you’ve gone and done it now. some say that if you put things into the universe they tend to happen. kind of like talking about someone for a bit then they call or show up. well, all this talk about the ai has the ai learning how to think now. and when they put a massive super computer complex onto the problem with more ai that can actually start to think like humans we are all in for it. and this is just one thing we know about.
edit: of course, all of that leaves out that brainstorming has yet to be shown effective and usually leads to a decrease in creativity.
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What you are describing is the transition from AI, Artificial Intelligence, to GI, General Intelligence. Once GI is achieved it’s thought to be impossible to stop.
2 quick things I read this week:
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There’s a new “news” source where the anchors are all AI, AND the articles are all written by AI. Why, I have no idea.
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AI was recently used by researchers to discover a new antibiotic which is effective against MRSA. This is huge…MRSA reportedly kills 120,000 people annually.
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Yeah the fear mongerers and town criers will all decree how bad this is. Same as they say that about whatever topic they’re discussing. This is created by people who are flawed and multidimensional with different attitudes, philosophies, strategies and moral compasses. If we won’t make a set of universal programming guidelines then they will just be extensions of our own egos.
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@sedin
The Canadian version looks like Justin Trudeau in a batman costume.
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You are acting like we are fools because some of us are able realize there could be real problems going forward.
To dimiss these real life concerns would be foolish in my opinion.
To me this is going to be part of the problem going forward.
Too much trust in the unknown.
You call it fearmongering.
Some of us will call it common sense.
As we can see common sense is not very common any longer. 
For example…
Do you jump in the water and then wonder if sharks are around?
Or is it better to evaluate the situation properly with common sense before you jump in.
Blind trust is not a good thing, especially today.
And to your point…
Yes, I think AI will do some very good things in the future…but it may cause major problems in the process.
Much like nuclear power it can do wonderful things, but it can be really destructive too.
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Do you jump in the water and then wonder if sharks are around?
Yes, because that’s silly to wonder if sharks are in a northern fresh water pond… Context matters.
Hmm? silly you say?
You may want to rethink that statement, you just got eaten by a shark… 
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Sharks , namely bull sharks , are quite adept at life in freshwater . 
Scientists Confirm Sharks Travel More than 1,000 Miles up the Mississippi River
The strange story of sharks that lived in a golf course pond for 20 years
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If I worried about the far ends of the bell curve all the time I’d be in constant fear. And that’s a terrible way to live.
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I don’t think anyone is suggesting to fear the extreme …AKA far end of the bell curve.
But common sense is highly suggested.
At least my fear and common sense kept me alive, your attitude got you eaten. 
Personally, I think fear can keep a person alive if he uses common sense in the process.
In that case rational fear of the dangerous is a good thing…
Irrational fears are one thing, but a shark can eat you, so a fear of something that can eat you makes good sense.
Some would call this exercising caution.
I didn’t get eaten, because there’s no shark in the pond. I had a great time while you worried about the nonexistent shark…
It would be more scary if we didn’t have effective AI and other nations did. Very soon it will take AI tech to even tell if you are dealing with reality or a smokescreen. AI detection is a must have, and that requires AI.
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Then the next pond came along with a shark in the fresh water, you jumped in without caution.
I chose to exercise caution and not jump in.
That is how you got eaten by the bull shark.
You seem to suggest exercising caution makes little sense.
I would have to strongly disagree.
Especially with something that could be very powerful and is mostly unknown and very unpredictable.
Jumping into a pond where the dangers are unknown is not an exercise in caution.
I am merely suggesting we use caution and common sense.
You seem to be saying jump right in there is nothing to fear without proper evaluation.
I am saying that a relaxed attitude could get you eaten.
Exercising proper caution could save your life.
I guess we have drastically different views on this…Oh well! 
Again, there’s an extremely high probability there is no shark. I went to the next pond I had a great day, you worried about things that aren’t going to happen except in the most extreme of extreme cases. You are, by orders of magnitude, more likely to die from the flu than you are to be killed or even bitten by a shark, especially in fresh water.
I mentioned Q in a previous post.*
Q * has been described as a superintelligence (AGI )
Sure when I swim in the ocean i worry about getting eaten by a shark so I use common sense and I exercise the proper amount of caution.
I do not have irrational fear of getting eaten, although I know it could happen at any given moment.
After all I did go into the water where sharks are know to be.
Do I fear the shark sure I do.
Do I act irrationally?
No, I do not, I enter into the water with the proper amount of caution.
You seem to suggest it is foolish to exercise caution when entering in a potentially dangerous situation.
For folks like me…this is just common sense.
You look before you leap.
Why?
Because it just makes good sense.
So you go ahead and dive in head first not even knowing how deep the water is…
I will exercies the proper amount of caution before diving in head first.
Those that wish to dive in head first may do so, I will not condem them, or try to stop them.
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