you can’t use that number unless you discount that sometimes a thousand can live in a high rise apartment building. so yes, sometimes it is 1000 per “house”. per capita is the only thing that makes any sense in this case and divides the waste among the people and not the places which are impossible to count anyway.
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I don’t discount that sometimes somewhere amazing 1000 person apartment complexes can exist, though that would be 10x the average size… I’ve never seen one, but even without looking, I’m sure they exist. 
I’m just not real clear on these presented figures …especially since some of them have a variable range because of factors I don’t know. Possibly I’m just being an autist 
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oh, those numbers don’t jive either, i wasn’t looking at them closely at first. i’ve seen some huge apartments, but of course i haven’t surveyed how many lived there, and there are probably far fewer than 1000, but i’d say it’s a whole hell of a lot more than the typical 2-10 people of a house. there is no doubt it is way more than a coke can but nowhere near the amount of coal ash generated by a coal plant, not to mention all the amenities that go with coal, like sulfur (which they just got out in some), co2, and others and that is leaving out the destruction of the environment to get the coal, and i know a little about that living in wv. i’d prefer to see more focus on renewables and the grid storage, but there is still a little money left to be extracted from fossil fuels.
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Gonna reject the premise that carbon is a straight up waste product for carbon based lifeforms on a planet with a carbon cycle. That’s a whole 'nother can of Eugenicist worms right there.
Yeah, I was going to save distinctions of Type and Quality for after we established quantity, but let’s talk about coal ash because that’s a great example.
Carbon. Reentering the atmosphere. Comparable to nuclear waste in terms of deadliness per parts per million?
If that “soda can” reaches the water supply, it can kill everyone in a city. But those coal plants pump directly into the air and you know what the deadliest part of them is?
Uranium and other nuclear material from unrefined coal. That’s … the deadliest part of coal waste. The nuclear part…
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go do a quick search on “wv coals ash disaster” and get back to me on that “most dangerous” part about coal plants. i assure you that this is one area i am very familiar with both sides of, having made a lot of money from them as well as fighting them as an activist. i’ll wait.
and it’s not so much that it’s releasing carbon, it’s releasing c02 which as a greenhouse gas warms the atmosphere. when they had the fgd program i was a part of (flue gas desulfurization) they built new stacks with s scrubbers. they were paid for over a decade ago before construction but the money was being used to make more money, and when they put them in, they could have added a minuscule amount and added c02 scrubbers also. did they do that? well, i’ll give you three guesses and yes cannot be one of them.
no, nuclear may not be perfect, but compared to coal it is. as for natural gas, well i worked as the network field engineer for the mvp, mountain valley pipeline - biggest pipeline for gas at 48", and some of the things i witnessed there make me glad it got stopped, although it was nice to be paid $40/hr to sit in my jammies and play video games most of the day. it may burn cleaner but the extraction and transportation of it causes great harm.
we need to focus on renewables, and we are some, but there are way too many fighting it. sorry about the rant. not one damned bit of that was about ai, but it is scary.
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This topic is about artificial intelligence, not horses complaining about cars.
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That’s a good point. Coal ash is highly radioactive and has a number of other properties that make it bad for a planet with anthropogenic global warming (if that is actually happening).
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I did not read the whole thread. Damn its long. 
If you read the “DUNE” books you see that before the time that the movie takes place, the humans become so dependent on “thinking machines” that they enslave humans. This leads to the “Butlerian Rebellian”. I think Herbert was quite prophetic about many things. He was also a frequent eater of psilocybin mushrooms. 
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Will AI be used to stop crime?
More specifically pre-crime?
What about thought crime?
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I’ve worked in industrial automation.
The article is misleading at best. Anyone who works with these pick and place robots knows that you
are not allowed to enter a space with power applied to these powerful machines. I can almost guarantee the engineer bypassed at least one, probably multiple safety interlocks to be hurt in this fashion.
A layman’s comparable would be someone crossing a busy street on a red light and then blaming a driver for hitting them.
Now that said, the rest of this conversation is healthy and should continue.
Just my $.02
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I have no issue with nuclear power but the day I trust its operation to condo management is the day I shoot myself in the testicles.
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but it’s so scary! fearmongering at it’s (finest? best? logical conclusion?)…
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Third point on the topic…
Is that because the Inventions Secrecy Act is real
the energy crisis is essentially fake. That is, artificial. Manufactured.
You talk about alternative and sustainable energy but did you know it’s effectively illegal for a solar panel to be over a certain efficiency in these related bills?
Debates about which answer is “best”
during an ongoing restrictive federal monopoly on the answers we’re allowed to give
is not much of an honest debate. And it’s not allowed to be.
Nobody here would be debating if nuclear or coal was the lesser evil if they were using Telluric and Brownian Motion boost converters, full spectra UV and microwave energy capture, HHO generators, and the only reason we don’t is because some very powerf
…well. I have nothing political to say. About obvious revolving door relationships.
It’s a mystery. 
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I use my own body heat to boil water to power turbines. Sustainable.
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i’m not mentioning that at all, just your use of the word “safe” in relation to coal fired power plants. nothing safe about them, just varying levels of acceptable risk and who bears the risk. mostly us in the extraction places. there’s no mystery about it. those right and left sides are only sides to the degree they are which direction around the circle you start. but i too will avoid anything political more than that. enjoy the day. i’ve got a lot of house and farm work to catch up on before the new year.
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I don’t claim that nuclear is only flaws and coals is only solutions.
“There are no solutions, only trades” as Thomas Sowell would say.
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How about I bring this back on topic.
I made this with a few algorithms…
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The way that all ties into topic for me
is Aladdin, and other AI like it; those who emulate not just from shopping data and facial recognition, but your entire social and psychological profile to ask themselves… O Seeing Computer on the Wall, what …counting these trillions and trillions of known factors, would be the most effective way to successfully push X agenda, and it can tell you. Without any moral hang ups or possibility of defecting or whistle blowing.
It’s not just doing math, or predicting chemical bonds. It’s specifically FOR predicting and controlling your behavior as just another variable in their own algorithm.
We don’t have to go get some at Hollywood.
We got scary AI dystopia at home.
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Gates says AI is about to really take off.
Will AI be used in place of meantal health care ect?
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