It’s marketing. It might increase yields. It might not. Lots of variables. Honestly, I don’t really see much of a difference. That’s why I call it a feel good product. So yeah, if the price is right, and you want to, go for it. But don’t break the bank looking for the best mykos product.
I would recommend something like Mykos from Xtreme Gardening. It’s cheap, straight Glomus intraradices. They still need to do more testing to see which strains even form symbiotic relationships with cannabis. I believe Glomus Intraradices and/or Glomus Mosseae are your best bet until more research comes out.
This is nothing personal, I just want to prove a point. Look at where the studies/information come from on either of those two articles. When I look, they are both pointing to Dynomyco, producers of a product. No peer reviewed studies whatsoever. Lots of assumptions unless they have data to back it up. A picture of two plants, one with bigger roots than the others doesn’t mean anything.
I’m not saying there might not be benefit to it, but what I am saying is be careful of the marketing and BS that comes with these types of products.
I can pull up many university studies that point to the benefits of myco products, I don’t think that is really at debate here is it? But, I do understand what you are saying, however the science is there to support the claims made by the manufacturers
That is exactly what I said. I have all the studies as well. Those articles are trying to look like studies - they’re just selling a product. I just want people to know the difference.
Simple, take a group of cuttings, use mycos on one set and not he other. Grow side by side.
Hell, I’m about to chop up my plants some more, I may just make some fresh rooted cuttings and apply mykos extreme to some and not others. I’ll even microwave the promix first to kill off the stuff they mixed in first.
I’m taking cuttings tonight before I set the timer for the flip, I’m just wondering if I should use promix or just amend some peat moss myself. That would prob be a better control since there’s no beneficial microbes mixed in first. Running low on mykos, but I should have enough to dust a couple root plugs at planting time.
Depends I suppose. I use peat moss as 1/3 of my mix, and from what I’ve read, I think it does have some microbes in it. Probably not the mykos you’re talking about though. My buddy said he uses xtreme gardening off Amazon, and has seen the same benefit as great white. I’d like to see him do a few without and see what happens.
I’ve been growing in soil organically for 25 yrs. now. imho a good well aged compost with lots of worm activity is the best source of mycos. its living soil with all that is needed for the plants to flourish. ive dialed it in to this mix. i make a small batch of sub cools super soil, using fox farms ocean forest as a base and add a few bags of coast of maine lobster compost or my own chic manure compost and a bag of coarse D.E also. i layer that about 2/3rds of the 15 gal pot. for the top mix i take a wheel barrel full of old used soil and mix with 5 good shovels full of 3 yr old composted chic manure and top my pots off with that. when i flip them to 12/ 12 i amend with more compost with a handful of fish bonemeal and some greensand. i always keep the surface mulched with 3in. of wood chips. depending on weather, i water about a gallon a day per plant. these are in fabric pots so they dry quicker than solid pots. in ground i rarely water as we get a lot of rain.
sold as floor dri at napa. theres 2 under the same name. make sure its the D.E one. its ph neutral and holds water as well as areates. its mostly silica and some micros so it helps grow sturdy plants. i use it in ground and in my raised beds as well. about the same price as perlite.
Just my 2¢ as I’m thinking about your experiment. If you use promix and microwave it, you could be killing off other non-mycorrhizal beneficial microbes which could negatively impact that test group. I honestly don’t think promix adds enough mycorrhizal fungus to make a difference, but that’s just my opinion.
I think we need to clarify the difference between microbes, and mycorrhizal fungus. You will not get mycorrhizal fungus from your compost, you will get a lot of other great microbes. I was told once to make sure the D.E was food grade. I honestly forget off the top of my head why that was said, but might be something to check into.
Food grade comes from a freshwater deposit, otherwise they don’t have to test the other stuff for metals and other contaminants. Also the powdered food grade stuff isn’t nearly as bad if you inhale it vs the powder processed stuff or pool filter DE. something about the way they process it makes the particles smaller and sharper, more damage to lungs. People use the coarse floor dry DE for bonsai plants, and others on the fruit/garden forum use it for their berries and veg beds. I did not know it was a granular/coarse until like last week.
The secret to an experiment is make sure all the things you do - you do to all of them, except that one single thing, adding the mykos. Also, make sure your test group has lots of different clones, all of the same plant. You need a few because usually the clones that root first are also the ones that grow best. If there is any benefit it should be obvious or else it probably makes no difference if you can’t tell. Measure their weekly growth. Do the test several times if you can. The more times you do it and it gets the same result - the more likely it is to accurately reflect reality.
lol then tell someone else the results and get them to try it. If they get the same results as you…then it’s extremely close to being not wrong!! Or if you like, closer to being right. oh my.
The things we do to maintain plant counts. These went for a ride with me after being freshly cut. Now they’re in a nice spot where they will get indirect sun, on a nice heat mat. I took 2 off each plant. We will see how they come out. Like I said, i didn’t want to have a winner and lose it.
