So is anthrax…
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Anthrax doesn’t kill bugs, though.
I say this with complete honesty, the thought of smoking insects and insect parts is more detestable to me than the thought of trace pesticides. Flashback to mexican brick with spiderwebs and dead flat spiders in it. Probably a lot more I didn’t see. Ugh.
lol, it’s actually pretty funny you are in such denial about it vernal. Here’s the thing though. I know you assume I’m just some smuck telling people crazy shit. What if I told you I have a laboratory that I performed these tests in? A lab that enables me to study the life cycle of pests, plants… whatever. You know something… the spider mites are just little shitty creatures with stupid eggs on a strand of silk. I can see 'em hatching and shedding their skins and laughing…at me. Right up until I kill their asses for good. These days? I eat spider mites for breakfast. The last plant that came in was infested with spider mites, thrips and aphids. All dead. I washed em down the drain. How do I know that? I can see it with my microscope. The protocol isn’t complex, but make sure when you do it, that you perform the steps correctly. The easy part is to just live in denial about how it works, the hard part is accepting that it works.
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You took a photo of a microscope off the internet to prove that water will eliminate mite infestations?
Unintentional comedy.
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LOL oh shit bro that’s funny as fuck! I mean what you said about me taking a photo of a microscope off the internet. Ahh well it just means you don’t know me at all. That’s ok! I welcome you to read some of my postings and get in touch with who I am.
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When you use that kind of arguments it means the discussion has ended. People searching for methods to fight spider mites will have to read all this nonsense. Please just offer your solution and let people decide for themselves, no need to bash other ones saying they won’t work … 
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heh heh I’ll keep going here. Anyone heard of micro propagation? where you take a small part of the plant to make sure it’s free from disease? What I did was boil that down to something a regular human can perform in order to get rid of pests once and for all. No need for a fancy lab and equipment - just strip it down to the meristem and scrub that sucker. If anyone is worried about the spurious insults headed my way or insulting my ideas or someshit - rhetorical posting is recognized by me as having no meaning. Like you notice I don’t call people pieces of shit or try to terminate conversations, I know that kind of crap is against the rules. I mean, against the rules of conversation. So, I hope people can see, there is no real call for spraying anything on your plant to get rid of mites.
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@anon81143130 On veg combined with neem oil maybe, but you’re in flower, check this out …
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Ime spinosad is not overly effective on spider mites. It will completely devastate a thrips population though. Absolutely do not use in flower. This is really pushing the borderline of an organic solution. It is a translaminar pesticide which means it is locally systemic. 1-2oz per gallon, spray twice, one week between applications.
spinosad.pdf (279.9 KB)
EFFICACY
Spinosad is principally toxic to plant-eating insects in the orders Lepidoptera (caterpillars), Coleoptera (beetles), Thysanoptera (thrips), and Diptera (flies). It is not a plant systemic, but will penetrate leaves to some extent and therefore has activity against some leafminers. Spinosad is not effective at controlling mites at normal use rates (Thompson et al., 2000; Cowles et al., 2000; Tjosvold and Chaney, 2001), although at high rates or in combination with some adjuvants it has miticidal activity (Gilrein 2004).
product13-spinosad.pdf (184.6 KB)
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Do you think you can eliminate an active spider mite infestation with a hose?
If so, you’re contributing to the misinformation.
Discussion and argument about methods to control pests is the purview of a weed forum.
I don’t think there is a miracle cure, I think when a discussion starts with arguments like “you took that photo from the internet”, “comedy”, “silliness” it enters in a terrain where nothing productive might grow.
Water is good for getting rid of aphids, I doubt it will fonction with mites, as I showered my plants many days consecutive and failed, but that’s my opinion and I will respect the contrary.
We are here to help, as I told you, expose your solution but repect others proposals, try to avoid negativity in your answers … 
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Not every idea is equal or worthy of respect.
If a person suggesting praying the mites away I’d tell them it wouldn’t work, probably in impolite terms.
There is a “miracle cure”, you’re just against using it.
I don’t take offense when people criticize the methods I use, I’ll certainly explain why I think they’re wrong, but acting as if people’s opinions are sanctified by virtue of them having them is strange to me.
That may be your problem, lack of respect, you can say “I sincerely doubt those prayers would work”, the idea transmitted is the same and it doesn’t bring tension or negativity to the discussion …
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Feel free to pray your mites away.
It just won’t work, is all.
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here’s the thing vernal, and george, as well. You have to perform the protocol like I described. It’s a micro propagation tech for eliminating micro organisms. Spraying your plants with a hose I never made that claim. Please refer to the protocol to really learn how to do it.
OK so now come the questions. Why would I make an easy to disprove claim? or…an easy to prove claim heh heh. All you need to do is replicate the protocol and use your best magnifying glass to check.
I wasn’t refering to you, I remember one member getting rid of aphids by watering heavily with a hose outdoors …
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aphids are one of my favourite pests! I love to squish em!!! Those and loopers, man they make good satisfying squish. Aphids got on my grapefruit tree and I spent 2 weeks squishing them! I’m not being sarcastic either. I love squishing bugs on plants! Those two are especially vulnerable to squishing due to the fact they don’t lay eggs. unless the looper becomes a moth heh heh.
ok here’s the bottom line. I got a bet with my pops he claims nobody will learn protocol zero or any of the protocols to get clean and stay clean. But, I think I can find at least a single person willing to learn how to stay parasite free. Just remember, it’s not magic, just basic science.
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I avoid taking anything in from outside and always use an intake screen/filter. That rarely fails but if critters do get in and cause a bad infestation i don’t mess about.
I scrap everything, scrub, disinfect etc start new beans and try to be more careful 
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you’re actually close, that’s definitely breaking the cycle. If you take it one step further, you don’t even have to toss your plants either. ok everyone here’s the breakdown, I mean this will become obvious how I defeat the parasites. They are not aquatic lol. Stage one: Infected plant material - dripping with mites.
Stage two:
Strip plant to meristems only
Stage three:
Submerge for 30min…using shampoo bottle?
final step:
rinse violently
I use the vegetable sprayer usually.
now you are ready to complete the cloning process using your favourite method. Make sure you clean up all the crap in your grow area too. I like to sweep and mop.
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