Keeping you alive by making a buck. Great. What about those who can’t buy what they need? How much does that industry care then?
I am against anything that claims to be about helping people yet is little more then a way to make money . How do you wrap your head around the fact that the same industry that is keeping you alive is also the cause of so many deaths?
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I think the media here has it wrong. Can 4 adults live in 1 household and all 4 have a 499 plant count license (1996 plants in 1 house)?
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Yeah that must be a big house,but it would not surprise me lol.
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ok then, how do you propose that someone manufactures items, and requires no compensation. I certainly don’t work for free, I’d be the biggest chump ever. The govn’t foots the bill for most of that shit anyways. Definitely not a perfect system as am I forced to pay 50$ for the superior prescription, but if I want to die early, I can take the freebies…mm good stuff. Nobody promised me a rose garden though, could die early anyways.
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Tax payers foot the bill to huge corporations . Not the government. Tax payers pay the money to the pharma corporations who price gouge as much as possible, like any other for profit company does. Gee I wonder how much of that money actually goes to the workers compared to the CEO’s and shareholders.
On top of that other then your own experience , Which I am sure there are many others who feel the same as you do, just as many if not more people are pushed pills and treatments they don’t need and in fact many times they lead to an early death.
How you went from me thinking healthcare shouldn’t be for profit to me thinking people should work for free is beyond me. But I very much do think somethings should not be about making a buck and healthcare is one of them.
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ok then, how is this system of yours going to work?
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So because I do not agree with the current system, I , one person , is suppose to have the answer on how something so complex should work?
Maybe corporations shouldn’t make an absolute fortune off of “helping” sick people. Especially when that fortune comes from public tax dollars.
Thats a start.
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Govn’t ensured generic medications can be produced, and then purchased at a lower price. Now they are trying to make a national drug plan to bulk purchase medications to further reduce cost. What!!! You mean the government is trying to negotiate with manufacturers to reduce the price? It’s almost like someone has a job trying to reduce costs. Hey…oh… look at the system in the usa! They are paying 100% more for the same medication. wait…wait…we have it actually pretty good here? say whaaaaa?
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It is clear there is no point in talking to you. "Hey lets compare to the worst then it seems pretty good " mentality might work for you , it doesn’t for me.
Good luck in life.
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congratulations, I wasted my time asking you questions about a subject that you knew nothing about.
I can understand both your points of view and agree with them. I am no fan of big pharma, and try and avoid there use if possible myself, only using a low dose blood pressure treatment atm, but that may change as my health does. I try to use natural remedies if I can, which is mainly avoiding things I put in my body that can cause harm.
Some people have no choice with the conditions they have to live with, there are no alternatives to treat their conditions and rely on pharmaceuticals to stay alive or reduce the effects of their debilitating symptoms so these companies are needed.
It’s not a perfect system, especially in the US, where government is manipulated by companies lobbying with large amounts of money to influence policies. Other countries have better policies for controlling costs, in the UK the charges are the same no matter what the cost of the drug, so they are affordable to mostly all who choose to use them. Albeit the costs are paid by all in taxes.
With everything in life it’s buyer beware, you have to take charge of your health care and make the best decisions based on the information available. I try and get that information from public funded independent testing sources that have no financial interests to determine this if possible.
Sometimes the negative side effects of a drug, natural or man made, outweighs the use of it to the user, and sometimes it doesn’t.
I don’t think generalizing things is good in these instances. Everything is on an individual basis depending on your life circumstances and people’s choices should be respected.
Getting back on topic.
I think we can all agree that weed helps with many problems, and should be available to anyone who wants or needs it, to help maintain their health. Unfortunately money interferes with many things being controlled by it, for profit, and why Overgrow is in existence to help re address that balance in some way.
We have many members trying to help each other out, with free knowledge and free or swapped/traded seeds out of the goodness of their heart just wanting to share.
The ACMPR is not a perfect system and I think like a lot of things is open to abuse, and it will be continue to be abused while government tries to control it for profit. It’s not the producers fault either, whether doing so legally or illegally, they are just taking advantage because of the way the government is controlling it, we all need money to live.
If it were truly legal the value would drop to the point where the profit would be so small, no one would bother trying to grow it for profit, monopoly and unavailability always creates artificially high prices.
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Yes a subject I knew nothing about … I know nothing about it , because I don’t share your opinion. Sorry for wasting your valuable time .
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Everyone should read this page. Don’t stop there - read it all.
here’s the real life breakdown. I know this person, lets call her “lois”. She was 100% against “big pharma”…can you see where this is going? Lois came down with a serious condition which was easily treatable with the latest “big pharma” treatments rolled out to every patient to cure up their condition. sigh cue her confirmation bias, they weren’t going to treat her! Alternative medicine was! After her kidneys failed she had to go into the hospital and get the treatment to save her life. Don’t…be like her, I am pleading. Please, no.
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The wife and I just got our doctor’s forms renewed. 12g/day for me and 6 for her.
I was really thinking of filing to grow legally this year but I think I may not now. 20 years of staying under their radar has worked so why put my name on a hit list.
Over 50 years of being paranoid about pot doesn’t go away that easy. 
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Bullseye… hard to shed that ‘get ready to run for it’ conditioning. Still can’t walk down any street smoking a doob…I have to find a quiet place to…hide. It was almost like a switch going off, society didn’t give a fuck and I’m still hiding in the woods looking like a hobo. There wasn’t even a coming out party??? I need another decade to adjust…lol
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Second that, fuck I thought once the LP’s got into the rec market, that there meds would be almost free going forward. Foolish person that I am. At least I can give mine away for free…
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According to health CA, if you’re growing on a medical license you can’t give away anything, but if you’re growing your 4 rec plants, you can. Just make sure your giving away the right weed 
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my partner is med with strict amounts, I’m rec and so is renter without limits lol except 4 plants at a time. Yeah we keep pretty strict on the difference,
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I can assure you that all of the startup genetics were from gov’t bought rec weed, as they could not supply any seeds or clones to us. Thats my story and I’m sticking to it. Yeah it was legal to grow you own rec, BEFORE any seeds were available to the public from the lps. Furthermore, lps were NOT making any seeds/clones available to cardholders who did Not sign up with them, so in any court here, genetics held by personal growers is indistinguishable from gov’t approved genetics, really. Thats also what were sticking to. The numbers on the permit are never exceeded and were smalltime, so no worries.
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