Closing the Shark's Tank and Political category

Someone said Trump? icon_e_surprised|nullxnull Let’s not talk about the past no|nullxnull, there are three subjects we can always speak about: weed, weed and weed … Pirata|nullxnull

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Yup, one thread I really used to enjoy…

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Great thread, thanks. I contributed a helluva of time on Troll It Up and then got banned because of my conservative (and rational) positions. Screw 'em. Who needs Zuckerberg, Dorsey, and Rolliup anyway. They’re toxic.

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1 thread i stay far from
Politics

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Even in the Provocative memes thread? box|nullxnull I agree we could share some beers just avoiding that theme … beer3|nullxnull

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Pretty sure the zuckerbots patrol og now too

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Yeah, I bought couple of them on ebay. But I’m afraid we don’t have enough trolls to feed them.

That still holds. I’m pretty sure we allowed anyone to speak up their mind regarding growing techniques, seed companies, strains, etc…

The issue is when some individuals want to spread misinformation and hide behind the free speech. The resulting mess only divides community instead of uniting us. And no surprise that we (mods) spent 90% of time moderating politics, provocation and trolling instead of focusing on cannabis.

So where is the point in allowing it when it wastes 90% of resources, forces people to leave the site and hate each other and brings absolutely no value?

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Sorry, consider it a rhetorical question :slight_smile:

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But thats exactly what it is, free speech, means you can say whatever you want. Not just most of it or part of it, thats restricted speech. Not arguing just saying freedom of speech means you have to deal with the idiots. Thats part of it. Otherwise its not free speech. It would be like if we have freedom of religion, but you say you can’t be asatru, only Christian or Muslim, thats not freedom of religion, its restricted.

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Bunch of BS censorship if you asked me.

I know a few other people and places throughout history who loved censorship.

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I was a lifeguard for 20 years. LOL. Never thought to eliminate my enemies this way!

BUT… We did have some inner city kids come to the park one day. Couple of kids, maybe 11 or 12 yrs old come to the diving boards, one gets on it and his friends are all like “Jamal! you cant swim, whatcha doing!!!” He’s like “I’ll jump towards the ladder, and besides, there’s a lifeguard there”.

Well. I heard that. And I say to Jamal “Ya do realize I am here for accidents, not to make sure you get to the ladder, right? If you know you can’t swim, and you jump in the deep water anyway I don’t have to save you, ya know that right? Cause I’m here to save people who have accidents, not help them get to the ladder”. (regardless of the fact that I’d have to jump in if he jumped off, I was flat out lying to the kid, but he didn’t know it LOL)

Jamal quickly got off the diving board and went to the shallow section. :rofl:

Wouldn’t happen if people were civil and kept things on topic. Wanna talk covid or politics, go to a covid or politics forum. I’m here to discuss all aspects of this wonderful plant, how to grow it, process it and smoke it. Seeing anything on religion, politics and anything NOT related to this wonderful plant is a distraction at best, and a trainwreck at worst. Honestly, why do people feel the NEED to talk about politics, etc, on a forum for growing cannabis? To me its not about censoring stuff, but keeping the topics on track and relevant, and NOT starting a fire the mods need to put out. If I like Smith, and you like Jones, and we get all bent out of shape over it, how are we helping each other grow better with animousity towards the other? Now, if I dont know about smith / jones, and neither do you, we discuss growing, nobody gets pissed about politics.

I really don’t understand why people feel the absolute need to inject anything other than cannabis related stuff here… And thats why you’ll never see me post political BS.

Ok, /rant off and On with the memes!

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No, that’s not correct.

You tend to think about freedom of speech as an absolute right, when in fact by law it isn’t. The example of an absolute right is the privilege for life, or the privilege to not being tortured.

Freedom of speech has its limits in every jurisdiction (as most of the rights have).

Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute, and common limitations or boundaries to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation

Source: Freedom of speech - Wikipedia

I think it is correct for a publisher or provider to narrow the scope of the content or the discussion. I don’t see any reason why we should host any content, or even illegal content just because you want to share it. This site has its purpose and that’s overgrowing the world. We even have some obligations not to publish illegal content.

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Its a god given right, thats how it was written into the constitution. Its not until recently that, that right has been under attack in the us. Just like you have a God given right to defend yourself. A god given right of the pursuit of happiness and a God given right to believe in whatever religion or lack of, you want to. These are inalienable rights. Its not until the 20th century that these right have come under attack.

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You already do this.

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" The version of Article 19 in the ICCPR later amends this by stating that the exercise of these rights carries “special duties and responsibilities” and may “therefore be subject to certain restrictions” when necessary “[f]or respect of the rights or reputation of others” or “[f]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals.”[3]

Freedom of speech and expression, therefore, may not be recognized as being absolute…

Freedom of speech is speech free of retaliation.
Sooo uh… freedom of speech was intended to be absolute until some gov made it illegal to point out their mistakes lol.

You say this, we do this.
Wrongthink will not be tolerated.

When it comes to this site, I stayed mostly based on the no political stuff allowed.

I can see where your “guarantee to free speech” and “fuck your politics” can be contradictory haha but as a publisher you certainly CAN decide what’s hosted on your site.

Let’s put this to rest now gentlemen…

(Ps I’ll delete this in a few hours so as to not paint a fresh room with feces)

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And one thing I don’t understand is why things like this are ok but not from the other side.

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@CoyoteCody
You/must have had no history lessons in your life did you go to school in Oklahoma. ? The claims you make are ludicrous.

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You, apparently, have never read the constitution. There is not now, nor has there ever been any mention of a deity in the US Constitution.

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Those topics are archived in a “Garbage can” category (not open for new posts). That’s basically a graveyard for inappropriate topics (formerly called Shark’s Tank)

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Exactly. We had that ideal of a forum open to any view or opinion. Then the reality came. Endless fights that ended up in #garbage-can. The decision to close the Tank was from Aug 2020 when the most heated covid discussions took place.

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