Coco/Auto Help

Hey guys so I’m a newer grower for indoors and got ahead of myself wanting to try coco with autos. I did a photo run first that came out good but I’m struggling with the autos. First 20 days went smooth. When they started to flower I switched to a little bit more bloom and noticed burnt tips fast so I went back down to plain phd water for a few days trying to nip it in the butt early but now I’ve got more yellowing going on then before. I’ve been following growweedeasys feed chart for autos in coco after seeing his results so I’ll post a pic of that feed schedule so you guys see what I’ve been doing. Also I’ve never seen this stripe on a stalk before. I’ve had the purple running up the stalks before but never a blank spot like that does anyone know what’s going on?



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it looks like there is a problem with Mg, so u sould check ur Ca ppm (could be a lockout)
also it has P deficiency (could be a lockout bs of Ca)
Yellowing could be also be bs of Ca excess (N,K lockout)
First of all i suggest to check Ca in ur water and Fertilisers if it’s not much then it shoud be just deficiency of NPK+Mg

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If there’s a lockout issue should I flush?

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if u wanna for them to get better faster? then yes

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That’s where I always get confused when I read up on this because I know overwatering can cause a lot of the same symptoms. If you were to flush these 3 gal pots how much water would you recommend to use

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go as slow as u can the total runoff should be around 0.8-1gal
the last go give em water with fertilisers 50% of norma

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(directional) light burn, nothing to really worry about.

For your funk, the thing to understand with hemp (yes i said the H word lol) is the first priority to give to roots. Twice more than with canna, they aren’t triggered the same way and your is doing what she can with what she have : not much valuable space underneath. It can be as dumb that a too “packed” soil or a poor seedling that need to colonize too much volume since the start.

No one use it but seedlings pots for hemp is critical, they need to be forced … to be auto, they are backcrossed the fuck. The marketing name never reflect the truth of the release ^^

You never grow a “white widow auto”. You grow hemp spiced with WW, once you get it … beast plants will follow i swear.

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I’ve always heard the opposite with autos as far as transplanting them because of how finicky they are the first 30 days or so. Obviously idk though or I wouldn’t be on the struggle bus lol just to give a little more context I don’t think I was giving them enough water too. I wasn’t getting nearly as much run off as people are recommending to me. I’m out of work with medical issues right now so I’ve been doing smaller handwaters a few times a day like barely getting the pot wet. Just gotta get better water practices down for these guys

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How many days? Have you been feeding since you stopped? You need to feed in cocoa every time it doesn’t hold nutrients like soil does. Burnt tips is my “perfect level of feed” indicator. If you flushed and ran plain water multiple days in a row you’re seeing deficiency from the lack of nutrients not lock out.

Feed the babies so they can care for you later. :laughing:

As for the spot did you do a stem rub for smell at one point? It can effect them weirdly.

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When you start to gauge your methods in term of grammer/year or even grammer/day on a rotation … your sight start to be much more clear about fancy recommandations ^^

Today stoners are even affraid to check their root mass, smell it, touch it … they guess and turn around. Instead to just remove the pot and verifying by themselves what is happening.

It’s because the productivity/grade/risk ratio totally changed. It’s sad but when you risk jail for a single plant, you don’t fuck around both in genetics and grow style.

Get blumat buddy, perfect for your context and easy/safe to set.
And get a serious root booster able to burn plants if you’re abusing ^^

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I fed them 3 days ago and got burnt tips and yellowing immediately so the past two days have been plain water. They have yellowed more since because I think I didn’t flush enough tho because I didn’t wanna overwater them the past two days either lol trying to find the happy medium

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I wish I could help more. I use soil and haven’t grown in cocoa before. There’s a ton of great cocoa growers here though. Someone should be along to assist.

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This is only my second coco grow and first auto coco grow so I was expecting issues so I’m not to let down by it so far. All apart of the learning curve lol I will say though when I start messing with a breeding project I’m probably going back to soil till I can figure out the right math behind the coco

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I decided I probably just freaked out when I burnt the tips with the feed and maybe over/underwatered them for a few days which caused the yellowing. I hit them with one more decent flush yesterday and gonna go back to feeding them again today when they dry a little and see what happens

Always feed in coco. Don’t put plain water through. Even to flush. Flush with lower strength nute mix. Pretty tough to overwater in coco if environment is good. Getting some feed in there at least once everyday to reset things is ideal. It’s not soil. Best of luck!!

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How much water per day give or take should I be giving these guys a day in 3 gal pots? I know there’s a lot more factors to answer this dead on but from what I’ve read and gathered I want the pots to stay moist but not wet and to rewater when the coco is dry up to my first knuckle.

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Yea the lighter spot on the stem is just where another stem was shading that area i think.

I personally wouldn’t put small plants in three gallons of coco. Three gallons of coco is a lot. With autos, just up pot them sooner before things get too root bound and constrained. But, since they’re already in there, I’d water them to some runoff with feed properly ph’d to reset things and then just pick the pot up to feel. If it’s staying the same as when you water it to runoff, hold off. But, if it’s 10% lighter, feed it. How’s your temp, humidity, and light power?

You can get into drybacks and all of that, but hand watering makes it pretty tough and it will drastically reduce margin of error. Watering it to slight runoff (100%) and then back to 100% when it reaches 90% makes things pretty easy and if you miss a day or something happens, you’ll be fine. Coco holds enough air at full saturation, unless you have some shitty coco.

It’s crazy how much misinformation there is out there on autos because everything I thought I knew is wrong atm lol I went for a 3 gal from the start because I thought you were supposed to avoid transplanting autos and that 3 gal was a good size for the roots to not get bound in lol. I checked out your grow logs and see you do awesome work with autos and coco so I’m all ears man

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