CrunchBerries’Probiotic SIP Thread

Y’all are getting me fired up to try this again! I’ve fallen off my bread baking lately and need to get back

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I second this :arrow_double_up:

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Thank you @Maddawg for looking out!!

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Ok, y’all have twisted my arm. Going to have to give this a try

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Do it man! Been a fun project so far! It is definitely another rabbit hole though!

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I can vouch for that. Shits a rabbit hole even if you’re not successful with the starter :joy::joy: I was on a tear at the beginning of the pandemic just baking off yeasted loaves like every other week. Nothing much better in the world than a warm slice of fresh baked bread with a slab of butter :drooling_face::drooling_face:

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We’ve got fermentation!! Getting ready to feed for the second 1/2 of day 6. I honestly was starting to get a bit worried as I hadn’t seen anything since like day 2 or 3. This is the starter recipe I’m following if anyone is curious Making an Incredible Sourdough Starter from Scratch in 7 Easy Steps

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Harry Potter reference?

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Lol, no. Macbeth.

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Oh right! That guy!

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I need help guys. Sorry for the long post…

I’ve done three SIP grows and while they all turned out successfully, I have had issues with all three runs getting the plants healthy at the beginning. My current issue is with my Sour Diesel and Royal Kush plants. This run I tried to have good sized plants ready for when my flower tent was ready and ended up with plants that were a bit root bound and I think too big to transplant into an earthbox. Going to shoot for much smaller transplants going forward.

Here is what I started with.

Because of the issues I had with my first two runs I decided to try a bagged potting mix and chose this local stuff.

Problem I realized after planting into the eartboxes is the mix was way too heavy (soil, not potting mix) and the plants just went south immediately. I ripped them out and re-amended the mix with a good deal of perlite.
I took this as overwatered at first but I was mistaken…

Here’s the Sour Diesel showing what I viewed as ph issues effecting uptake. Magnesium deficiency, right?

The Royal that looked overwatered kept getting worse and worse until I finally wised up and realized it was not overwatered at all. The entire rootball zone was bone dry when I probed with a moisture meter. It was extremely hydrophobic and even difficult to get the meter into. What a dope, lol!!

After a slow watering and a feed of some Roots Organic Buddha Grow she perked up and I thought I was good.

Next I slowly started seeing mag deficiencies on the Royal and calcium deficiencies followed. .

I started foliar spraying Epsom salts and 5% calcium. I scratched some dolomite lime into both earthboxes to bring the ph up and help mag and calcium uptake. The Royal does appear to be doing better a week later, but the Sour is now tacoing like a mo fo and it is not heat or light intensity I don’t believe.


Light is 20” away and PPFD is about 550. Temps are colder and I have to run a space heater to keep it between 75-80. Run 24 hours on to help with temps. I am using RO water due to my high sodium bicarbonate content and add 5ml/g cal mag.

Is this later stage magnesium deficiency?

Appreciate you taking the time to read this longer post and share any thoughts on what’s going on here.

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Looked up the soil and it sounds pretty good.
My main concern is you saying your soil is dry, this makes me think your not wicking properly.

If it were me I would do a few things before LITFA…
Make sure that its wicking properly.
Top dress with IMO4 (easier said than done, I know) and make sure there are worms.
Put LABs in the res

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It is wicking appropriately now. Good even moisture throughout the boxes. It was the just transplant that I bricked.

What do you make of the tacoing leaves?

I have EM1 in the rez and plan to move to LABS when I finish this bottle. I will need to research IMO4, but the ground is rock solid here in CT so that’ll most likely need to wait until spring.

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usually id say heat and or light stress but it doesnt sound like either of those are a problem. whats the RH?

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R/H has been between 55-65%.

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hmmmm headscratcher… deff looks like there is Mag issue.
Sounds like you hit all the bases to me though. Do you LAB your res? maybe just start there if your not?

I didnt mention PH initially as I dont check ph but it couldnt hurt to double check that either, not sure how much buffer that soil has in it

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I use EM1 in the rez currently. The only thing I keep coming back to is PH being too low so I’m hoping I continue to see improvement as the dolomite gets to work.

Here is a current shot of the Royal. Seems she bounced back a bit better than the old sour.

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cool, yeah, EM is like 1/3 LAB or so. I still say your own would be better though ;).

ahhh I missed the lime part somehow.
wait and see ? :thinking: :pray:

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How long since you transplanted?

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I transplanted dec 1 but ripped them out and amended the mix mid December.

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