Difficulty with new nutrients, little help please.

Hey everyone, so after years of using the Technaflora brand of nutrients with no issues what so ever I decided to switch to the Gaia Green brand. I have been having nothing but issues since. My wedding cake is either suffering from nutrient burn or deficiency, I can’t tell. But the issue that’s really bothering me is the fact I started seeds in the soil with the Gaia Green mixed in and only one of 4 have sprouted decently. It’s looks as if two are suffering from nutrient burn already however everything I seen on these Gaia Green nutrients say you are supposed to amend the soil so I’m very confused. Any help would be appreciated. Included some pictures to help.

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The 3 sprouts all pop soil the same day and were at one week yesterday. The top picture is the wedding cake and one side of the plant is yellowing. It looks a little better today after I gave it more Gaia Green bloom and worm castings. But I’m still wondering if that nutrient burn or deficiency and if so how many times a week or month should I be feeding them.

Some of the Gaia Green products are stronger than the numbers might lead you to think. I’ve ‘flamed a few’ too…

I don’t use any until veg up-potting and even then I’ll go half strength (usually the 4-4-4).

I like 1 part ProMix, 1 part old compost/earth worm castings, 1 part perlite (or other aeration material) for my base mix.

By veg I amend the base mix in the normal fashion. My flower mix is similar with more potassium etc.

If you are in southern Ontario I can give you a supplier that has a top notch organic soil mix - just add water!

Cheers
G

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It was two weeks since I have the wedding cake some bloom and worm castings. When I gave them more yesterday I gave only 3 tablespoons of both. Looks like it’s doing better today but I think I ruined the seedlings :pensive:

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I too have been using Technaflora BC nutes and have been very successful with it for 20 years…my way of thinking is, if your shoes shine why buff them…I don’t/won’t use anything other nutes…

Matanuska Thunder Fuck (bikers cut) grown in hydro

IB Wreck a strain I bred/created grown in hydro

Mr.Nice pre 98 grown in soil

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I went against my own intuition and advice, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. But I’m just trying to get better at things and end up ruining all my hard work. The last 1.5 years have been discouraging feeling like I can’t do anything right and the ONE thing that would be spot on is my growing and now that’s all gone to shit too. Feels like taking it all and putting it through the window be honest.

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Try and not to get all stressed out about it and just ease off on the nutes a little…when I do my seedling I dont use any kind of nutes at all…to tell you the truth it looks like your plants can/will bounce back…I think you will be fine and ease off a little on your new nutes…

Btw, when people start using new nutes its better to start off with week nutes at first, then after a while you can start pushing your new nutes…hope this helps.

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Hang in there! The dialing in one fertilizers can be a growing pain.
I love working various nutrients, but you can under feed or over feed, and they are next door neighbors, and can be difficult to tell apart for me anyway.
Germinating or fresh cracked beans do best, (IMHO) with zero additives, so I use a starter mix, dedicated to that time frame, once the plant reaches 4-6 points, then I’ll give it some food. But that is just me, there are MANY ways to grow this plant out.
I’ve tried every way I can find to work them upward.
I was once a crazed organic grower, and had the nonsensical ideas of salts are bad. So to disprove that silly notion for myself, I now start off plants in organics and switch them to hydro nutes. Food is food, until we under use it, or over use it, or time it incorrectly, again IMHO… Roots do not care.

When I was was mixing the nutrients into the soil before I even planted the seed I knew from experience there doesn’t need to be anything in the soil but I was checking this guys grow and his product was far superior than mine and only difference was his Gaia nutrients. So figured I try that. Of course it was the wrong thing to do.

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My wedding cake auto was about 3 weeks before I fed that one the Gaia green. It was good until a few days ago. It started yellowing. Why did it take so long to show me that the nutrients are burning it or were they all used and the plant sucking the nutrients from the leaves? This is what I’m not understanding. With my Technaflora nutrients I honestly couldn’t give them enough and never got yellow leaves.

No nutes on these for a while…Homemade strains…

DK13 & Sour O’wreck

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Are they all wedding cake strains? Got pix of the whole grow?

I figured out where I went wrong. My own mistake. :man_facepalming:t2:

My guess is the soil isnt very good. Just mixing an all purpose gaia green into plain soil wont do very well without a proper feeding regime. Their mixes are wonderful. With this style of growing you wanna drop most synthetic based knowledge. You wanna keep your soil at a good moisture level and you wanna have a good mulch layer. For my first year or so of a new soil i feed teas from kelp,neem meal, malted barley. also aloe and coconut water. But im starting off with a good soil rich with compost and soil life.

I been using the same soil for over 2 years and haven’t had any issues with it. Wasn’t until I tried the Gaia Green stuff that I was getting this or so I thought. Checked my little journal and noticed I written that I felt I didn’t bury the seeds deep enough. Checked them today and had lost two seedlings both were dried out from soil compaction. The wedding cake I was having issues with wasn’t given any nutrients in two weeks, she was zapped so I gave her more on Thursday and she is bouncing back now. Too many things going on was taking my focus away.

Thats what im saying. You cant use the same type of soil with gaia green. Your old style was supplying everything you need in a bottle. This style is much different. Check out this forum post :grin: No-Till Gardening: Revisited | Grasscity Forums - The #1 Marijuana Community Online

It was my soil was it? This is the second run in the same buckets. That’s why I was apprehensive about asking questions on a forum like this because 95% of you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about. The same promix soil I been using for two years all of a sudden wasn’t any good? You didn’t even know what soil I was using you just assumed it was that which was the issue.

100% of you shouldn’t have asked the question then.

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I just scanned the thread; you never once mentioned Pro-Mix until now. If you don’t give people all the information about your grow, they’re just going to be guessing. As in programming, so in life; garbage in, garbage out.

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That’s all he did was guess. Making assumptions. Fact of the matter is he thought he knew what he was talking about when he had no clue. As in programming :joy::clown_face::clown_face: