Doc D Chocolate Blitz; Freeborn Yesca x Jaro f3; Relic/Professor P/Dynasty Grapefruit f3; and (1) Bodhi Hasplant D

[iamyou_youareme]

@minitiger

Oh, you did like the Lavender Jack? Did you post a smoke report yet?

Yeah, it was one of my favorites from last round. I haven’t posted a report yet, I’ve been compiling notes and photos of everything from the last couple of rounds, but I haven’t put it all down on paper yet. The Lav Jack did stand out to me though… I just fresh froze three more plants of that Lav Jack to make into hash and I’m growing it again if that tells you anything.

@minitiger

seems to have a very even split of “classic Jack terps” (anise, fruitiness etc) and a pretty noticeable “lavender” thing going on, too.

Yeah I think it’s got enough of the Jack terps in there to keep it interesting, and the Wookie adds the Lavender candy and some more citrus thrown in. It’s one of the more unique plants I’ve smelled, especially while it’s live, Ramblin’Rose, Windy or nube can attest.

@minitiger

It’s never gonna happen, dude haha. Or I dunno, I don’t wanna say,”Never,”

Hahaha, I gotta try to get people out of their routines, here and there… all of those that you mentioned are around when you’re ready…

@minitiger

I dunno how any of those cuts you grew yielded, but I get the impression that a lot of these growers and breeders really factor in yields

Definitely a factor, probably up to the breeder on how much of a factor though… The Chemdog 91, and Chem D yielded huge, very stanky, very frosty buds… if you were a grower and saw some shit that produced like that 30 years ago, you’d think you had struck gold… The Mother’s Milk 31, again, yielded huge spears of the triangle shaped nugs. Bandaid Haze 7 and Spell Caster both yielded over 6oz from 7 gallon pots… so yeah, I’d say yield is definitely a factor in selection. It has never been a factor for me really, but if you were a commercial grower, or breeding for commercial grows, it would be something you would consider… also, some that do yield well are pretty potent too, like the TK, Chems, BH7… I guess that’s one of the main reasons they are still around these days. I’d take three pounds of any one of those… can always make concentrates if I wanna get higher… or just eat some psychedelics

[minitiger]

@iamyou_youareme

I just fresh froze three more plants of that Lav Jack to make into hash and I’m growing it again if that tells you anything.

That does tell me something haha.

@iamyou_youareme

I gotta try to get people out of their routines, here and there…

I mean… I don’t think I’m in a routine. I pop new seeds every grow, that’s not very routine-y haha. And there’s always one or two things that I have no idea what’s gonna happen, shit might get massive (like that one C. Gold x Dragon Energy) and there’s always big differences in height between everything and whatever.

No routine here! “I’m not in a routine; you’re in a routine. You’re the routine-ish person, not me,” haha… Sorry, just being a dickhead. That’s always my go-to when somebody says something about me I don’t like: “No, I’m not; you are. I’m not stubborn; you’re stubborn,” or whatever.

Anywayyyyy…

@iamyou_youareme

all of those that you mentioned are around when you’re ready…

Haha, I know, I know. Maybe the Blue Dream or the Lavender Jack (I wanna get into that one a little more), eventually. I do think that pollinating the BD you have with the Dream Lotus that I have might be a good idea and something to do down the road.

Way, way down the road… haha.

[minitiger]

Grapefruit f3 #3 smoke report:

This was the plant:

She was the more “normal-looking” plant of the two.

Something that I think is curious is the fact that Professor P used two different phenos from the f2 generation, a Sweet Pink Grapefruit leaner and an NYCD leaner, to make the f3’s, which really doesn’t make any sense to me. Holy pointed that out a while back and I really didn’t think too much of it at the time, but I ended up on the Dynasty website last night, reading about all of their crosses and I couldn’t get that out of my head. It makes sense, anyway, that I’d end up with two wildly different plants from a pack of f3’s once you consider that.

Smell: this one smells like dirty gym socks with a little bit of “citrus,” possibly grapefruit? Doesn’t smell like much, anyway, pretty muted. I let most of the plants from this grow hang for too long after chopping, just didn’t feel like trimming, so I think I had more to do with the lack of smell than the genetics do. Having said that, neither of the Grapefruits smelled like much while they were growing.

Taste: honestly, this is where I think my letting them get too dry before trimming affected it the most. It doesn’t taste like anything at all, really. At least, not out of my bong (which is clean! haha) or out of a glass pipe. A friend of mine who uses a Volcano said he was tasting what I smell (I never, ever tell people what I think of the weed before I give it to them, other than something vague like,“I think you’ll dig this one,” or whatever): citrus and gym socks, so I guess it tastes like it smells, if you can taste anything at all. Again, though, this is my fault.

I think haha. I hope it’s my fault, anyway.

High: Great weed. It’s an EXTREMELY “clear,” cerebral, creative high and totally not what I was expecting when I planted these seeds. I like it. I get very “musical” when I blaze it haha, all kinds of songs and melodies in my head and I remember albums that I haven’t listened to in years and feel compelled to put them on. There’s ZERO “body” in the smoke, it’s all in the head.

That doesn’t mean it’s rushy or racy, though. It isn’t. It’s a very, very pleasant high that I feel just a few minutes after blazing, but it also climbs for a good thirty minutes. That same friend of mine who smokes outta the Volcano texted me after trying this one at home and his first text said,“Getting into the Grapefruit #3, I like it, but it doesn’t seem too strong,” and then he texted me like five minutes later and said,“Scratch that. I’m VERY high,” haha.

It’s pretty great weed, checks almost all of the boxes for me. And it’s totally an “anytime” type of smoke, too, doesn’t make me tired at all on the comedown unless I smoke it late at night, when I’m already tired.

Having said that, there’s something missing from it and I’m not sure what it is. I dunno if it’s the lack of flavor (which, again, is probably my fault) or the total absence of any kind of “body high” whatsoever or what. It could be that it’s just smoking a lot different than I thought it would. Might be because I chopped her too early (day 65). I dunno…

I’m not complaining, though. I’m definitely gonna plant more of these seeds, seems like a line worth exploring further for SURE, just based on the way she smokes. Next time, though, I think I’ll definitely let them go another week, if not longer.

[minitiger]

In other news, check out this freak fan leaf on one of the Wat Phos I’m vegging now:

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anything like that before. There’s actually other blades underneath it that are being obscured by the “top” of that leaf. Kinda weird, anyway, just thought I’d post that for y’all’s amusement haha…

[HolyAngel]

Ooh fantastic makes me wanna get into those too!

I could see the lack of any body-high to the smoke being a bit off-putting. Was part of my issue with the strawberry cough but she actually is weak too lol

Glad to hear it’s good herb tho for sure!

Now to keep waiting on that Church report

[HolyAngel]

Oh that’s a neat mutation! I’d say that’s an afghani trait but Wat Pho is Temple (SSH/Williams Wonder) x A5 Haze/Thai BX so idk what that’s coming from the nl5haze stuff are usually pretty structurally stable plants with not a lot of weird mutations… wonder if it’s from the Williams Wonder or the not-actually-Thai Mirakel

Regardless, will be interesting to see if she grows out of it or not!

[TopShelfTrees1]

That’s a new one for me, very cool! Let’s hope she’s a standout for many other reasons too

[Vagabond_Windy]

@minitiger

Something that I think is curious is the fact that Professor P used two different phenos from the f2 generation, a Sweet Pink Grapefruit leaner and an NYCD leaner, to make the f3’s, which really doesn’t make any sense to me.

While I can’t speak for him. Maybe he didn’t want to lose anything in the F3.

[minitiger]

@HolyAngel

makes me wanna get into those too!

Yeah, I thought of you while I was really getting into this one the last couple days haha since I know you have a pack or two. I think you should check it out. It’s one I’m definitely gonna revisit at some point for sure. I’d say let it go at least ten weeks, though, pretty positive chopping her on day 65 was the wrong move. Or it was for that particular plant, anyway.

@HolyAngel

I could see the lack of any body-high to the smoke being a bit off-putting. Was part of my issue with the strawberry cough but she actually is weak too lol

That’s what’s weird about the Grapefruit #3, though, is that she isn’t “weak” at all, but something’s missing. Like, that Yesca x Jaro #5 I grew is definitely weak, the ceiling is incredibly low and no matter how much I smoke, it’s not gonna get any higher. But there’s still something about her that’s more “satisfying” than the #3 Grapefruit, even though the Grapefruit is definitely way, way stronger than that #5 Yesca.

I think it’s just my fault, I let her get too dry etc etc. Maybe it’s the lack of terps… haha!!!

@HolyAngel

Now to keep waiting on that Church report

Haha, alright, alright… I’ll get into it starting today for sure.

@HolyAngel

wonder if it’s from the Williams Wonder

That’s my guess. Or just a combination of everything. In any event, I’m not worried about it haha, just thought it was kinda weird and cool-looking.

@Vagabond_Windy

Maybe he didn’t want to lose anything in the F3.

Be that as it may, it seems to me that if you’re gonna f3 something, you’d do that to reinforce certain traits, whatever those might be. Again, though, I’m not complaining. It’s good weed for sure.

[Vagabond_Windy]

That A5Mirakelbc throws some weird shaped leaves for sure. But mostly a variegated leaf here and there with a hook

[minitiger]

@Vagabond_Windy

a hook

I’ve read that that “hook” is a Cuban Black Haze trait; one of the Bandaid Hazes I grew had it going on big-time, but that plant turned out male (might’ve been for the better). That Wat Pho fan is beyond “hook,” though haha.

[HolyAngel]

@minitiger

Haha, alright, alright… I’ll get into it starting today for sure.

lol

@minitiger

Be that as it may, it seems to me that if you’re gonna f3 something, you’d do that to reinforce certain traits, whatever those might be. Again, though, I’m not complaining. It’s good weed for sure.

Yeah the F3s were to keep both and then he ibl’d it but still more work to do:

That NYCD grapefruit is reminiscent of Soma’s Red or Ruby Red Grapefruit.

That’s about all i got. P needs to get on the PotCast or something lol

[Vagabond_Windy]

Nice find!
He did do a patreon only episode. May have been deleted but it was there for sure

[HolyAngel]

Hmm yeah he had a post back in 2018 saying he was gonna interview him, but I can’t say I ever saw it get posted and it’s definitely not on there now there’s a 1hr interview post too but its dead. Wonder if it was because people were downloading all of them, he was getting mad about that. Maybe he’ll repost it sometime

[minitiger]

Yeah, that’s cool, thanks for the info. I’m starting to think, though, that I don’t really wanna know anything about anything, really haha. I don’t wanna know the thought processes that went into making seed lines or albums or anything else. I’d rather not know, I think. I mean, I kind of wanna know, just because I’m a curious person, but I feel like I’m always disappointed once I find out haha… Like,”Oh, okay, so really their logic was kind of flawed,” or whatever.

I’ve been revisiting Father John Misty lately, got obsessed with his album Pure Comedy when it first came out like six years ago, listened to it nonstop for a few months and then put it on the shelf for a long time. But I got back into it about a month back and realized I know nothing about him except that he drummed on a few Fleet Foxes albums before he went solo. So I read a profile of him, I think it was a New Yorker mag thing, and when I finished it I decided that I just do not want to know anything at all haha. I’d rather just experience it myself and form my own opinion, without being influenced by either the artist’s interview quips or the journalist’s view of the person they’re profiling.

Or the seed line stuff, too haha. Plus, it’s just too much to keep track of. Professor P did an f3 and an f4 and an f5 of the Grapefruit or maybe it was Sow Low or whoever? They’re “not completely satisfied with” the seeds they’re releasing (selling)? I dunno what to make of that.

Seriously, I read those Professor P things you posted here yesterday (and thank you for that) and was like,”Uh… What?” haha… Same thing I thought when I was reading the strain descriptions on the Dynasty website, where it was like,”There are four distinct phenotypes in this seed line,” for pretty much every line they wrote descriptions of.

I mean, that’s a lot of distinct phenotypes haha.

Anyway… I dunno what my point is, but thanks for posting those screenshots. I just rolled a j of that BAH Church a second ago, gonna blaze it and I’ll let you know what I think of it tomorrow or the next day haha.

[minitiger]

Father John Misty - Things It Would Have Been Helpful To Know Before The Revolution [OFFICIAL VIDEO]

I don’t think I was clear there in that last post, @HolyAngel, but what I meant was I only wanna know the process if the breeder can explain themself in a clear and coherent manner, a la meangene or Bodhi back in the day. Or anybody who wants to write about it. But when it’s just this, like,”I pollinated something and then my partner took that and pollinated something else and now we’re doing this and that,” or whatever, my eyes just glaze over.

I care, but I don’t care that much haha.

[HolyAngel]

lol yeah i hear ya on the ignorance is bliss factor. I traded out a bunch of packs I bought thinking one thing only to later find out the breeder went a completely different direction than I thought based on the name or cross.

The SowLow Farms/partner reference in the pics was in regards to finding more F3’s or Grapefruit related work. He’s the only one with any available work from the Grapefruit line that both he and P have worked, until P releases another line. The rest was just him talking about what he personally wants out of the line. But the goal of the posts was to show that he did indeed want both pheno’s in there for a reason, and that he is still working on the line to make that reason a reality. That was all

[minitiger]

Yeah, dude, just ignore me. I dunno what my problem was a couple hours ago haha. I spent like an hour reading about Dynasty’s entire genetic catalog last night, for no reason really, it’s not like I have a bunch of their gear or something. Obviously I care, I dunno why I tried to pretend I didn’t haha.

Anyway, that Church BAH is pretty gawddamn good, smoked half a j a couple hours ago and I’m still baked. I’ll write an in-depth haha report tomorrow, but yeah, that one’s a keeper for sure.

[HolyAngel]

No worries lol

I do think Professor P is actually one of the most descriptive breeders about his work and what you can find in each line. I just wish there were more actual grows and smoke reports of them from other’s. His site is basically the best info out on any of them sadly.

[syzygy]

Ya the comments about that BAH church pheno sounded really interesting to me. Really hoping to find another Devil’s HP with the church incense smell post vaporization. Do you prefer that BAH or the Lav Jack so far?