Makes me wonder if that was the US5 or Nevil’s NL5 
Doesn’t have to be 5 specific either, NL5 has NL1 in it too. Sounds like you guys were getting a specific clone of it which I never did. Always from seed, but it all sounds like general NL/indica effects to me. I want that zip-a-dee-doo-dah or borderline trip with my hazes 
Glad its not just me with the expectations though 
Lookin forward to your thoughts on it too! Love the discussion!
See, though? This is what I’m talking about when I said that I was looking for weed that made me feel like I felt when I was a kid, just starting out smoking. And the majority of that weed was Mexi brick. That would’ve been ‘88/‘89, which I feel fairly certain was early enough that the Dutch genetics hadn’t yet become prevalent down there. I’m assuming that they were still growing the local NLD varieties, but maybe they weren’t.
Now, obviously those Mexican “Sativas” aren’t “Haze,” but they aren’t short-flowering BLD’s, either. And maybe it was just because I was a kid. Maybe ANY weed woulda made me feel like that haha, all giggly and super-stony and whatever. I dunno. I really do not know. But I like that Bandaid Haze a lot, because it makes me feel like I’m 13 and just smoked some Mexi brick haha!!!
Yeaaaahhhhh, I guess. I mean… “Body.” I dunno. I don’t feel incapacitated or anything when I smoke the BAH. I wouldn’t even say that I feel lazy; I just feel extremely relaxed and very good. I can still get up and do stuff (mostly make more food haha). Do I feel compelled to be active? No. But I wouldn’t say it’s a lazy kind of high.
I mentioned a while back about mushrooms, how I can be tripping my balls off, walls breathing and little dots and patterns everywhere and no matter what album I put on it all sounds like Pet Sounds haha, but I still feel totally relaxed and at ease, no “rushiness” or any kind of “mania” or whatever. That’s how the good BAH’s feel, but obviously to a much lesser degree. I’m high as fuck, but I’m also totally chill haha.
When people say “body high,” I always kind of think of, like, laziness or lethargy or whatever; those aren’t things I think of when I consider the way the BAH smokes. It’s way more of just a,”Life is good, so why is anybody stressing?”-type of high haha.
Do it. You know I don’t care haha.
I never had any hazes but have had that effect in Kali Mist. Recently (year or 2 ago) in a Malawi bag a friend gave me as well. The giggly munchies herb sounds like the compressed Mexican of the late 90s to me. Wasn’t that strong but I always liked the effects.
Ah yeah, I do remember those effects in the mexican brick from back in the day. Definitely not haze. Some can be sativa tho but most I wouldn’t consider so. Maybe it’s that dreaded 'Lumbo 
But I always considered it as coming from Afghani’s. It was usually earthy spicy smelling flower that did that. The One from clackamass coots reminds me of those flavors and effects. 71 Kandahar afghan x 76 highland thai.
Just to be clear, I am NOT looking for Mexi brick haha. I haven’t smoked any since maybe 1994 or so, but even by then it wasn’t affecting me the same way it did a few years earlier. I blame the acid for that haha. For whatever reason, after the first time I ate acid, which I think was 1990/91, I stopped laughing uncontrollably when I’d smoke weed. I have no idea why or how a single acid experience affected my brain’s response to cannabis, but it totally did.
Plant that Kali Mist x Everything, gawddamnit! Haha.
Ah, yeah the acid can rewire your brain. I used to never get emotional from movies or shows. And then on my 28th birthday I had a couple blotters with a buddy and ever since then, Pixar movies give me all the feels
100% it did for me as well.
My head is spinning with possibilities and options post legalization. That (km x e) was part of a possibility. Was thinking if I test some elites I could possibly pick out a mother or 2 with desirable indica effects that allows me to explore some “sativa” seeds until I get tired of the moms.
So ya I actually may pop some in the near future, but I’m also almost certainly going to contradict myself and flake on something because too many exciting options.
That made me audibly chuckle haha. I’ve never watched any of those movies (and I never will), but my girl likes them, because she likes the songs? I guess? She likes to sing along with them. I can assure you, though, that I will never, EVER get emotional if I do watch one, no matter how many drugs I’ve done.
Unless you count,”Can we turn this shit off?” as an emotion haha.
Really? Huh. That’s interesting; I thought I was the only one haha… I’ve never looked into why or how acid affects your brain’s response to cannabis, but I definitely ate a ton in high school and for a few years afterwards. Maybe I’ll check that out today and look into it. My girl’s insisting that I do some sorta dog training class later this morning, sounds like it could be fun haha. No idea why she wants me to do this, but I don’t have anything else to do, so… Maybe afterwards I’ll look into LSD’s effect on cannabinoid receptors.
Haha, yeah, it does get overwhelming sometimes. I mean, I’m not even making seeds and I still get like,”Shiiiiit… I wanna plant it all!” most of the time.
I will not, however, take a poll. I will NEVER take a poll. Nobody’s gonna decide what I plant each round except for me! Haha…
Anyway, regardless of the breeding stuff, I’d like to see that Kali x Everything grown out, even if you don’t cross it with anything. I just wanna see what those plants look like; it sounds interesting to me, especially with that mysterious “Everything” as the male haha.
There is something called HPPD (hallucinogen persisting perception disorder) that I think may have the potential to explain some of it. Maybe Pavlovian conditioning is a component as well. I know every time I tripped I always smoked Cannabis and so that may be acting like Pavlov’s bell in a sense.
Ya for sure, me too. Was half tempted to secure another pack to find the narrow leaf KM phenos but not motivated enough to spend 90$~ to quality for a freebie pack.
I definitely remember smoking/dabbing on the ass end of an lsd trip and it was like the weed gave the lsd a boost and another good wave would come with visuals, and could keep it up multiple times. I think it was mainly dabs cause I don’t think I was smoking much flower in my lsd days lol. But I always thought that was the best part of a trip.
Oh that’s definitely a thing. My first time trying acid I was by myself at home in the evening. I mean my wife was there too, but I was the only one dosing. Anyways, I took 4 blotters thinking it was just 1 as it wasn’t perforated. Thought it was just one big blotter lol. Thankfully I was an experienced psychonaut from the mushroom trips I’ve had before. I still couldn’t sit there and watch The Muppet Show tho while the walls melted and the fireplace talked in Kermit’s voice. About half way into that acid trip things came to kind of a break. Waves had calmed down a bit, so I thought I’d go pack a bowl to relax a bit further. Boy was that the wrong idea! Two puffs in and I was over 9000. Waves stronger than before. Was a fun time but I didn’t sleep at all that night lol
I’ve never heard of that, but I’ll check that out.
Definitely not. Or not in my case, anyway. Nobody told me,”Hey, by the way: once you eat that tab, you will never have uncontrollable laughing fits after smoking weed ever again…” haha. I for sure wasn’t “conditioned” to think that I wouldn’t laugh my ass off from weed once I ate acid. Also, I always smoked weed when I was tripping; that’s just a given haha.
I’ve also drank heavily and done lots of cocaine while tripping on acid and mushrooms haha, but I don’t think that that has anything to do with it. Like I said, the first time I ate acid (and I definitely wasn’t drinking heavily or doing blow), that was it. The laughing fits were pretty much over. Which, bummerrrrr haha.
Okay, well, you’re obviously much younger than I am haha! Dabs weren’t a thing when I first started eating acid.
Having said that, smoking weed pretty much the whole time is essential when tripping. Or maybe not “essential,” but I like it haha.
For sure. Who DOESN’T smoke while they’re tripping? That’s like some 80’s bullshit, like,”Don’t mix drugs! Don’t mix drugs! You’ll die!” haha. I’m going full-on Hunter Thompson-style, every drug I can ingest, I’m gonna ingest it. And all at the same time haha…
That. Sounds. Hellish. Haha.
I won’t lie, there was a good 4-6 hours i was just sitting in the front room in the dark by myself lol If I hadn’t tripped off mushrooms a bunch before it could’ve easily been a bad trip, but overall it was a good time. No plans to do 4 blotters at once ever again tho lol. 2 and watching Akira was a good time tho. Like watching a movie of someone else tripping and having a bad time lmao
And yeah! On the 28th birthday trip, we didn’t even watch anything! Literally just drinking party in the basement. Two of us tripping, all of us drinking. But ever since then, I feel all the feels. Something with the brain rewiring from the LSD opening up all those connections. That’s how the synesthesia works anyways and why you see sounds or hear colors or such things while tripping. All those parts of the brain are activated at the same time while tripping.
I was thinking more along the lines of a subconscious association with a state of mind that you get into while tripping, that Cannabis may play the role of a trigger. Pavlov’s bell was associated with feeding and when the dogs heard the bell they would begin to salivate. No clue if that’s it, but I feel like post-tripping for me Cannabis became much more introspective and psychoanalytic. That said, maybe it’s just set and setting too.
Funny you mention this a few times when I was a teen when I smoked I happened to have a uncontrollable laughing fit on a few occasions I remember one of the first times it happened when I was 16 my homie that just turned 18 at the time bought a bong on his birthday was my second or third time smoking out of a bong took a few large rips I legit started laughing for over an hour to the point my ribs and stomach hurt haven’t had that experienced that since i was a teen shortly after tried acid haven’t had that happen since 
Psychedelics can be weird was watching a video on shrooms and a shroom trip apparently made Paul Stamets had his stutter cured from a mushroom trip when he was younger interesting stuff for sure
That story of Paul Stamets as a kid tripping on a hero’s dose up in that tree is hilarious! It’s amazing that he cured himself of his stutter. He said when either he’s drinking or in a crowded place his stutter will come back, but for the most part he is able to control himself. Pretty fucking amazing!
Why would you?!? Haha. I mean, I dunno about you, but the last thing I’m gonna do when I’m tripping is turn on the gawddamn tv. I’m outside, sitting in the backyard with some music blasting (Pet Sounds haha…) . And even that gets to be too much sometimes.
The last time my girl ate shrooms with the rest of us, she actually did have a bad trip and had to just lay down by herself for like three hours. Problem was, she controlled the music with the fucking iPad haha. My friend Natalie was like,”Put on some music!” and I picked up my iPad and was like,”I… I can’t… I just can’t… I hate technology… I don’t wanna look at this thing…” haha. Couldn’t figure it out at all, had an overwhelming urge to throw everything into the pool and watch it fry.
I think I know how to do it now, though haha. I could probably do it now when I’m tripping my balls off.
Haha, yeah, that sounds about right. I’m pretty much done with acid, fairly certain I’ll never eat any again. The last few times I did it I’d been doing tons of blow before, during and after, so it’s possible that that had something to do with it, but either way, I think I’m done with it. Acid’s a good drug to do when you don’t really have any responsibilities, like in high school haha, but for me, I reeeealllly start thinking about things I don’t wanna think about, like bills and shit, or just the whole concept of paying mortgages or rent or whatever. All that shit weirds me out big-time when I eat acid.
Doesn’t bother me when I eat shrooms, though haha! Maybe a little bit, but not nearly as severely as acid does.
Yeah, I know the whole Pavlov’s Dog thing haha. I’m just saying that I’d never heard about LSD affecting your brain’s response to cannabis; therefore I don’t think it’s possible for me to have had a “Pavlov’s Dog” response to weed after the first time I ate some acid.
I mean, it happened to me every time I smoked weed (which was daily), until I ate some acid. It’s happened to me only a few times since; the last time I remember was like twelve years ago, after me and a friend smoked some C99 hash and I listened to him trying to order a pizza. We both started laughing our asses off and he eventually had to hang the phone up and we did not get that pizza. I dunno if that had to do with the C99 or if it was just maybe me laughing at him for being a stoned dumbass.
Pssshhhh… Whatever. I mean, that’s cool and all, but enough with the “hero’s dose” and the podcasts and whatever. We eat drugs. We don’t need any “guidance.” We figure it out, like,”Shit, okay, maybe I’ll eat less next time…” haha. Or,”Maybe I should eat some more.” Or whatever.
My best friend kept talking about “hero’s doses” a couple years ago and I was like,”I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. What’s a ‘hero’s dose’?” and she was like,”Where you eat a bunch of shrooms!” And I was like,”Oh, okay. Well, yeah, we’re gonna do that; that was the plan. I don’t need a fucking podcast to tell me to do that.”
This thing where it’s like,”Oh, you’re having the WRONG kind of drug experience,” is bullshit. People shouldn’t think like that. However the drugs make me feel is how they make me feel. I like it. I’m fine with it. I don’t care if other people had a different experience. As long as I had fun, that’s all that matters.
Is that selfish??? Haha.
I take a healthy dose of shrooms every few months. Its like hitting a reset button for me. If im dealing with something that i dont have a solution for. Health issues, financial hardship, just anything in life. After tripping its like waking up with the same issues but a whole new blank slate of an outlook on it. I can rethink my actions, my thoughts and my path forward with a renewed confidence in my self and my abilities to remedy the situation. Its the best mental health medicine for me.
Yeah, that’s cool. Whatever works for you, really. Personally, I don’t do drugs to “alleviate” anything, any sorta “pressure” or whatever. I just like getting fucked up. It’s fun. But if shrooms help you come at an issue with a different sorta perception or mindset or whatever, fuck yeah.
Whatever helps.
Oh yea. I enjoy tripping just as much as the next guy. I guess its just a happy coincidence that it is therapeutic for me.