Federal legalization in the USA, what does the future hold for cannabis?

[rasterman]

Not for about 40 years. I got the following from Just Brew It: A Brief Legislative History about Homebrewing in the United States – Part 2 | In Custodia Legis.

The legalization of homebrewing began in 1976 when homebrewers in California reached out to Senator Alan Cranston, who lobbied for its passage and incorporated key provisions into H.R. 1337, which otherwise dealt with several tax measures. On January 4, 1977, Rep. William Steiger introduced H.R. 1337 in the House. While the bill worked its way through committees in the House and Senate, language related to homebrewing was added by the Senate Finance Committee in S. Rep. No. 95-1127. President Carter signed the act into law on October 14, 1978.

Homebrewing Today

Although the 1978 act removed some restrictions on homebrewing, the 21st Amendment still allowed states to regulate alcohol within their jurisdiction.

[CocoaCoir]

George Washington's Hidden Beer Recipe | Object of Intrigue | Gastro Obscura

[Emeraldgreen]

Thank you for looking up the information on that.

[RookieBuds]

Comparing making pharmaceuticals at home to growing weed is just idiotic

How bout comparing growing weed to, say, collecting rainwater which believe it or not is ALSO illegal, and not deadly like pharmaceuticals. Nobody’s coming after your rain barrels either ---- unless it’s a problem

Same goes for your closet grow. . … it’s not a problem, until it’s a problem (like maybe you’re slanging eighths). NOBODY is coming for your closet grow

[nefrella]

Yep. It always has been amd always will be about the money.

Wanna know who benefits from anything?

Follow the money.

[RookieBuds]

I’d also like to address the fact that nobody is going to make any genetics unavailable. The government is not all of a sudden going to just rule the genetics world. Sure they might water it down a bit or muddle things up, like a bunch of dumb stoner chuckers aren’t already doing that?

[shag]

Medicine is medicine it is foolish to think you can make your own medicine at home.
Think about it thoroughly before you speak.

@RookieBuds

NOBODY is coming for your closet grow

Bro can’t you see…
They already are…
Here in michigan we have pretty friendly cannabis laws.
They lobby hard here to end caregivers rights, once those fall homegrows will be next.
Some states already don’t allow you to grow your own.
Plant counts are getting smaller and smaller by the day, 12 used to be the normal.

[RookieBuds]

I’ll tell u this right now

Most “caregivers” are just looking for a legal way to slang. THAT’S why they’re under siege

And didn’t Whitmer try to like ban Michigonians (or whatever you call yourselves) the sale of even PRODUCE seeds during the pandemic? I think it’s fair to say some states are just worse than others

Still doesn’t mean they’re coming after your closet grow, or your seeds

[shag]

@RookieBuds

The government is not all of a sudden going to just rule the genetics world.

You may not have all the facts.
Might I suggest you brush up on your patent law.

Plant patents, trademarks, what are they and how do they work, Let’s discuss facts

Damn! I had no clue tbch

[RookieBuds]

@shag my wife makes medicinal oils at home which she’s not allowed to sell at her plant booths (jades, succulents etc) but she can still make them, use them, and we can even give them away, but not sell them. Sure they’re not norcos or fentanyl but it’s still a medicinal product with “restrictions”

But nobody is gonna kick down our door and seize her oils

[shag]

@RookieBuds

Sure they’re not norcos or fentanyl but it’s still a medicinal product with “restrictions”

They are not FDA approved, and just because she gets away with it does not make it legal.
The FDA has stated they will be cracking down on CBD oil even though CBD is not illegal.

@RookieBuds

But nobody is gonna kick down our door and seize her oils

The moment someone claims they got sick or died they would be kicking down every door in the hood if they need to.

[shag]

@RookieBuds
If you have the time try and read the whole thread it has a lot of good info to read and may answer some of the questions you have asked here.

@shag

I just saw an article on my phone, I will try and find a link for it.
The drug company behind the CBD-based medication Epidiolex has filed a lawsuit against more than a dozen competitors that are seeking to create generic versions, alleging patent infringement.

Basically said they put out a warning to anyone thinking of producing CBD that they will be sued by GW pharm.

I said long ago that CBD will be a pharmaceutical drug, you can not make a pharmaceutical drug in your basement legally.

I tried to tell folks this back in 2014, that this was the way things would be in the future, they all just laughed and told me the sky was not falling.
Seems they were wrong…

Well it looks like the sky is falling now…LOL

Will this happen to all medical cannabis too, it may if we allow it to happen.

“We will vigorously defend our intellectual property rights, as this is an important part of what enables us to continue to innovate and develop new medicines for patients, including our pioneering work and industry-leading GW cannabinoid scientific platform.”

FDA’s website shows that Epidiolex received authorization for use in the treatment of two sets of conditions in 2018 and 2020. The exclusivity period for the first is set to expire in September 2025, while the other expires in July 2027.

it would prove costly for generic competitors to expend resources to manufacture and market drugs that may ultimately be found to infringe valid pharmaceutical patents.

In the new complaint, after more than 100 largely repetitive sections of claims against the various companies, GW asks the court to grant injunctions to prevent possible patent infringement, judgments affirming that their existing patents are valid and enforceable and to award damages for any violations that may have already occurred.

Pharma Company Behind FDA-Approved CBD Drug Sues A Dozen Competitors Over Alleged Patent Infringement - Marijuana Moment.

@shag

GW pharm is a bit lawsuit happy these days.
Knowing there is even a small chance to be called into court will all the costs associated with that…
Why would someone invest millions into a CBD new product right now.
Then there is the FDA to contend with.

**“The FDA continues to alert the public to potential safety and efficacy concerns with unapproved CBD products sold online and in stores across the country,” said FDA Principal Deputy Commissioner Amy Abernethy, M.D., Ph.D.

“It’s important that consumers understand that the FDA has only approved one drug containing CBD as an ingredient.

These other, unapproved, CBD products may have dangerous health impacts and side effects. We remain focused on exploring potential pathways for CBD products to be lawfully marketed while also educating the public about these outstanding questions of CBD’s safety. Meanwhile, we will continue to monitor and take action, as needed, against companies that unlawfully market their products — prioritizing those that pose a risk to public health.”**

From the FDA themselves. March 22, 2021
FDA Warns Companies Illegally Selling Over-the-Counter CBD Products for Pain Relief | FDA

Essentially, the relevant statutory provisions prohibit these uses of CBD because CBD was the subject of substantial clinical investigations into its potential medical uses before it was added to foods (including dietary supplements), and, separately, because CBD is the active ingredient in Epidiolex, an FDA-approved prescription drug product to treat rare, severe forms of epilepsy.

@shag

@shag

n the future folks will not be making CBD oil in their basement and selling it at the local gas station like some do with regular cookies.

“FDA’s findings highlight the increased need for Congressional action as it relates to the regulatory framework of CBD products for use in food, beverage, and as dietary supplements.”

Marijuana Moment – 26 Jan 23

FDA Announces It Will Not Issue Rules To Allow CBD As Dietary Supplements Or…

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) says that it will not be creating rules to allow the marketing of CBD as dietary supplements or food items, leaving the massive industry without regulations despite repeated calls for administrative action from…

[SEMOActivist]

The goal is to make everyone buy everything from the corporate store using corporate script. The western elite have been working on this since the robber barons were schooled by We the People and the US Government. Read the book Creature from Jekyll Island, it is the robber barons revenge.

When the elite have completed their goal of complete control when people get out of line, like the Canadian Truckers, the Usurpers of the West can shut it down early.

[RookieBuds]

I mean cmon

Most of yall are sitting on enough seed to repopulate the gene pool entirely

Like i said. . … you’re grasping at straws

[shag]

@RookieBuds

Like i said. . … you’re grasping at straws

Some men you just can’t reach…

Cool Hand Luke (1967) - The Captain's speech " What we've got here is failure to communicate"

oh well we tried to tell ya.
You are not the first and you will not be the last.
I truly hope I am wrong but I have been singin’ the same tune since 2013.
Most of the stuff I said back then is our reality now or soon will be.
Only time will tell…

Vote NO to legalize cannabis....Or else

[RookieBuds]

LMAO

Youve been singing the same tune for 10 yrs in which time nothing has happened, and you expect me to take any stock in that?

HA.

[shag]

@RookieBuds

Youve been singing the same tune for 10 yrs in which time nothing has happened, and you expect me to take any stock in that?

Bro may I kindly say you don’t have a clue as to what is going on in the real world of cannabis.
Do some research, read some of what I posted, if you had you would not say the things you do.

Some folks you just can’t reach…

[RookieBuds]

I don’t want to ruin this thread or distract from any valid info here

Let’s just agree to disagree, wholeheartedly. I’ll stick with following my local state/city guidelines and not worry about Feds kicking in my door. You do you, I’ll do me

The “real world” of cannabis? That’s a laughable statement in and of itself, cmon man. Breeders and chuckers have fucked the scene WAAAAY more than the Govt ever has or will.

[shag]

When you are ready to pull your head out of the sand and see what is going on in the real world come on back, you will find some valuable info here for you to read, until then go off and do you.

@RookieBuds

Breeders and chuckers have fucked the scene WAAAAY more than the Govt ever has or will.

Oh boy, do you really feel this way?
You may be in for a shock
For instance let us discuss GMO cannabis…

I have tried to provide you with real world facts if you choose to ignore the facts that is on you, but they are here for anyone who can extrapolate from those facts.

Again, I truly hope I am wrong, but I fear I am not.
A closed mind will gather 0 knowledge.
Ask yourself is your mind open to real possibilities?

[RookieBuds]

You’re strong belief that the feds want to kick down home growers doors is not based on fact, it’s based on your opinion. Or, your unfair comparisons to other items regulated by the government.

No hard feelings man, i realize we’re just hashing out topics