California leads the way in testing and contaminant regulation. It is either better than other states or will be the blueprint for federal testing.
I said I disagreed with your assement that the 2 were
Then I went on to say…
But you seem to have missed that part even though it was posted several times. 
I’m not @yardgrazer.
Gas and oil as also different. Stick a towel into a can of gas and a can of oil and let me know if they react the same.
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Also herbal supplements are not regulated by FDA.
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They do both catch fire…
In a similar manner too.
Try that with milk, which is a totally different liquid not the same at all.
Again why do we continue to discuss this?
You did see this …right?
Hmmm?
Are you sure?
Maybe not regulated but controled may be a better choice of words here.
The FDA now says CBD products cannot be considered dietary supplements or food additives . CBD products will require a new regulatory pathway, the US Food and Drug Administration said
Ny was going to outlaw homegrow under Cuomo. He had even talked to nj and pa about outlawing it. Those two states are outlawing homegrown while ny is allowing it. We’re allowing it only because Cuomo got into his sex scandal and was forced out. Otherwise we would have no homegrow either
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Is this due to how the verbage and wording is on the products? I believe a lot has to do with what’s being claimed in terms of medical benefits. Some items without claims of medical benefits are ok to sell whereas the same exact item with claims of medical attributes require the scrutinization of regulation.
Not so different than trading cards and collectible cards and such where there is a strong secondary market yet so long as they aren’t advertised in specific fashions or otherwise encouraging and actively participating in the secondary market with respect to price and rarity of prints. Blurring the lines of distinction between gambling or not. Such an interesting conversation going on here. Awesome thread @shag. Much love
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I worked for a supplement company.
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Thank you, 
some here think this thread is a waste of space.
It is good to hear some folks enjoy reading this thread, it sees it’s share of negative comments that is for sure…
What does the FDA say about cannabis goods?
To date, the agency has not approved a marketing application for cannabis for the treatment of any disease or condition. FDA has, however, approved one cannabis-derived and three cannabis-related drug products. These approved products are only available with a prescription from a licensed healthcare provider.
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FDA has approved Epidiolex, which contains a purified form of the drug substance CBD
The agency also has approved Marinol and Syndros a synthetic delta-9- tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Do you think the FDA will allow unapproved generic CBD to compete with Epidiolex?
Do you think the FDA will allow unapproved generic synthetic THC to compete with Marinol?
Do you think the drug manufactureres would protest this action if they did?
I feel this may even fall under patent infringement, but I could be wrong.
Meaning you could be sued by pharma for knocking off their approved drug.
Aside from Epidiolex, are there other CBD drug products that are FDA-approved? What about the products I’ve seen in stores or online?
A. No. There are no other FDA-approved drug products that contain CBD. We are aware that some firms are marketing CBD products to treat diseases or for other therapeutic uses , and we have issued several warning letters to such firms. Under the FD&C Act, any product intended to have a therapeutic or medical use, and any product (other than a food) that is intended to affect the structure or function of the body of humans or animals, is a drug. Drugs must generally either receive premarket approval by FDA through the New Drug Application (NDA) process or conform to a “monograph” for a particular drug category, as established by FDA’s Over-the-Counter (OTC) Drug Review. CBD was not an ingredient considered under the OTC drug review. An unapproved new drug cannot be distributed or sold in interstate commerce.
FDA Regulation of Cannabis and Cannabis-Derived Products, Including Cannabidiol (CBD) | FDA.
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Can THC or CBD products be sold as dietary supplements?
A. No. Based on available evidence, FDA has concluded that THC and CBD products are excluded from the dietary supplement definition under section 201(ff)(3)(B) of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 321(ff)(3)(B)]. Under that provision, if a substance (such as THC or CBD) is an active ingredient in a drug product that has been approved under section 505 of the FD&C Act [21 U.S.C. § 355], or has been authorized for investigation as a new drug for which substantial clinical investigations have been instituted and for which the existence of such investigations has been made public, then products containing that substance are excluded from the definition of a dietary supplement. FDA considers a substance to be “authorized for investigation as a new drug” if it is the subject of an Investigational New Drug application (IND) that has gone into effect. Under FDA’s regulations (21 CFR 312.2), unless a clinical investigation meets the limited criteria in that regulation, an IND is required for all clinical investigations of products that are subject to section 505 of the FD&C Act.
There is an exception to section 201(ff)(3)(B) if the substance was “marketed as” a dietary supplement or as a conventional food before the drug was approved or before the new drug investigations were authorized, as applicable. However, based on available evidence, FDA has concluded that this is not the case for THC or CBD.
I think you need to do more research before saying all of this stuff. One is psychoactive and medicinal and one is medicinal. You equate delta 8 TO CBD and then say we’re wrong for trying to correct you. You speak on what you don’t know and noone will take you seriously.
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May I suggest the same thing for you.
I have supplied links to FDA papers as my source for research, what is your source?
Ok what does that even mean? You supplied the papers? My source is reality. Actuality I live. What are you even arguing? Every 3-5 posts is something new.
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Meaning I have done the proper research and I have provided the appropriate documents to show why I have come to the conclusions I have.
Your quoted source is…
Feelings seem to be more important than facts…
I will be stickin’ to the facts myself.
But you do you, by all means…LOL
I have supplied many sources including the California cannabis website which has all pertinent information. You said yourself that the FDA was just now looking into regulating cannabis as a drug and not a supplement. A distinction you are confused about some way up the thread. You can’t even distinguish between psychoactive and non psychoactive and now youre saying im basing this all on feelings? I live in the most progressively cannabis state in the US. They have been doing this shit since 1996.
Look at everything which is tested for shag. i mean open it up and read it if you can and see all the things that are tested for and then compare that to your state. Then remember that this is state and not federal.
flower-co-1g-cartridge-laughing-buddha.pdf (379.5 KB)
Pertinent to CA but not pertinent to the FDA.
You do realize the Feds have the final say in this matter right?
My source is https://www.fda.gov
Probably the best source for FDA information, I would think anyhow.
This is why I said you were clueless and needed to review the thread.
I never said this.
I know the FDA has been regulating cannabis as a drug for many years, how do I know?
They approved a few cannabis drugs several years ago, so I do not think that and most certainly did not say that.
If I did I misspoke.
I even named the FDA approved drugs that got approved several years ago.
Might I suggest it is you that is confused, not me.
I can’t?
That is weird I thought I knew the differences very well.
Maybe I should review the thread to get the proper info then…LOL
You seem to be saying that because of the testing done, it is already or should already be approved by the FDA.
I am not sure it works that way.
State laws don’t trump Federal laws, just so ya know.
The FDA will have the final say in this matter especially if federal legalization is passed.
What is FDA’s reaction to states that are allowing cannabis to be sold for medical uses without the FDA’s approval?
A. The FDA is aware that several states have either passed laws that remove state restrictions on the medical use of cannabis and its derivatives or are considering doing so. It is important to conduct medical research into the safety and effectiveness of cannabis products through adequate and well-controlled clinical trials. We welcome the opportunity to talk with states who are considering support for medical research of cannabis and its derivatives, so that we can provide information on Federal and scientific standards.
The FDA will be wanting to do its own testing using federal scientific standards.
Not California state standards, Federally approved scientific standards.
FDA Regulation of Cannabis and Cannabis-Derived Products, Including Cannabidiol (CBD) | FDA.
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