***Fun with Octopots: The Seed Maker***

Fun with Octopots: The Seed Maker

Here’s a fun trick that has worked for me a few times now. If you want to do a quick and easy small seed run, consider this technique. It sounds more complicated than it is in practice.

If you look closely (zoom in) at the pic below you will notice:

  • There are three young plants with similar structure in this octopup.
  • One is much taller than the others, that is a STS reversed male.
  • One is much smaller than the others, she is a flowering fem.
  • The third is a middle-sized child a bit deeper into fem efflorescence.

The big male is just about to drop a nice batch of potent pollen, dusting the younger girls with the lusty vigor normally associated with hot sex.

In six weeks or so I have reason to believe that I’ll be harvesting 50-100 healthy Frankenstein’s Daughter IBL seeds with little more fuss and bother than topping off the auto filler Rez a time or two.

Sound interesting? Here are the tricks of the trade.

  • Take three cuttings from any healthy female plant in veg according to this schedule: On Day 1 take a large cut and get it started rooting. On Day 14 take another healthy cut & root it. Emphasize health rather than size. On day 21 take the third sister cut, same size as the second, same protocol.
  • As soon as roots are spotted on each clone, transplant it to a transparent 8oz speed cup. Use your favorite “Seedling” mix of nutes at half strength judiciously. Bottom water preferred, RhizoTonic, and SuperThrive are my fav additions. Set your lights to veg for 24/0 daytime, 400-600 PPFD.
  • Once you see roots actually beginning to circle the bottom of each speed cup, transplant that plant into a single octopot. Fill the Octo Rez half way with an early flowering nute mix and set the lights for 12/12 flowering, 600-900 PPFD…
  • As soon as you see the first sign of pistils on the larger “Day One” male-to-be, begin a normal STS or CS reversal. Mask the female plants as you spray, or use a brush to dose individual branches on the reversal male. Spray every four days until you see male flowers.

Then you can just sit back and watch the show. The timing steps will cause the girls to begin flowering a little while before the big boy starts puffing his dust storm of fresh pollen at the girls. Keep feeding and lights as you normally would for flower all the way to harvest. If you have some secret sauce nute mix for seed building use it now.

If you did everything right, six weeks later you’ll be looking at these.

The Cherry on Top: if you continued to grow out the original “mother” plant for bud after you took these cuts, and your timing was right, that “Mom” plant should be delivering a bud harvest for you to sample as your new seeds are beginning to ripen. You get the smoke and the seeds! I have had that pleasure and it is the Sweetness! lol

YMMV, but I’ve had good luck with this and thought it was worth sharing.

Cheers,
-Grouchy :v: :green_heart:
PS, For those who are interested in such things: Starting with a known female removes any uncertainty as to the sex of the cuts. So you can start as soon as the Mom shows, My theory is that the timing of the cuts taken will result in a pollen drop beginning when the two fems are in early and mid flowering stretch. The following two or three weeks of full blown dusting should cover the most important window for successful pollination. Even small fems can deliver plenty of seeds, I’ve pulled over 50 seeds from this lady.

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That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing your technique!

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The Seed Maker Update

It Worked!

Much to my surprise, given the wholly experimental nature of this little grow, I didn’t expect much out of it. I’m pleased to report that the three small cuts sequentially rooted and growing together in a single micro octopot, successfully did the pollen dance and produced what at least look like viable seeds!

The icing on the cake is that even a few seeds from this breeding match turn out to be very important to an ongoing breeding project here.

They represent the entire population of Frankenstein’s Daughter BX6, a cross that recently failed due to a parent plant dying at exactly the wrong time.

Anyways, it’s a big deal here, but I wanted to share the outcome of the Seed Maker experiment with you guys rather than leaving it hanging.

Here are our three original clones in the final gasps of life. The older plants in front are the two seed mom females. The eldest is on the right, her younger sister in front on the left. That tattered brute in the middle is our reversed pollination stud attempting to knock up every girl in the neighborhood. The tall youngster in the back is just another extra flowering fem sister clone I added recently just for fun.

Here’s a closeup of the horny male tossing his yellow spew like a pollen fog.

And Glory Be! The results were bunches of green seed coconuts on both of the elder sisters.

You can see some tiger markings on one of the lower right seeds.

I’m jealously plucking them as they ripen, and every day I nab a few more that at least look like they could be viable. You can see the ratio between “maybe viable” and complete duds. Not great, Lol

I also gave the tired out pollen donor male a good shake and collected a little pile of pollen, as well as a half dozen of his own selfed seeds.

I’m surprised this worked at all, esp with the way it was cobbled together. If it were done carefully and intentionally, I reckon it might be a useful breeding tool.

Respectfully Submitted.
-Grouchy :v: :green_heart:

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Looks like it worked great!

Congrats :sparkler:

Mad (grouchy) scientist strikes again.

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