Less than a year ago, during the Gage Green Group archive drop, I went harder on the Grapes than I’ve ever gone on any line before.
I’ve bought a lot of different GGG packs over time, but with the Grapes, I went deep — multiple packs, more than any other strain by far. I knew this drop was my chance to really dig into this lineage, so I stacked up heavy.
From the start, I said I would document everything honestly, and that’s what this thread is about: a running record of exactly what’s coming out of these packs, no sugarcoating, no hype — just the truth.
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Females – The Range of Expressions
The females have been a real mix, which is exactly what you expect when going through big numbers:
• The winners are incredible.
• Some phenos have insane grape terps, layered candy sweetness, deep complexity, and knockout bag appeal.
• The top-tier plants bring dense, frosty structure, perfect coloring, and that magic you can’t fake.
• A lot of “good but not great.”
• Plenty of plants are fine overall — they grow and smoke well — but don’t have that extra spark to be considered keepers.
When you do find a female winner, it’s so good that it makes all the middle-of-the-road phenos worth hunting through.
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Males – Pistil Herms
This is where it gets interesting.
So far, every male I’ve run has hermed, and not in the typical way most growers think.
• When these males herm, they throw actual pistils.
• They do make nanners too, but the defining herm trait here is the pistil itself.
• It’s very obvious and easy to spot if you know what you’re looking for.
For me, this is important because I want a stable male before I consider line-breeding the Grapes.
• I can move forward with breeding — crossing these females to other proven males —
• But I can’t do true line-breeding within the Grapes without a clean, stable male that doesn’t throw pistils.
That means the hunt continues. I’m not discouraged at all — if anything, this motivates me to keep digging. The more I see, the more I understand this line, and the better the end result will be when that perfect male shows up.
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Why I’m Dedicated to This Project
When I spent all of my Bitcoin at the time — to grab these packs, it wasn’t out of impulse.
• I saw the potential in these Grapes and wanted to secure enough stock to truly explore the full genetic range.
• The female winners have already proven I was right to go in heavy.
• Now it’s just a matter of time and patience to find the right male and open up the F2 generation.
The way I see it, there’s no reason to be frustrated about life.
If there’s something I can do about a problem, I’ll do it.
If there isn’t, I’ll let it go.
This hunt gives me motivation — it’s fuel, not stress.
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This Thread – For the Record
This thread is here to document everything transparently for anyone interested in these genetics:
• Photos, notes, and updates will be added as I go.
• Both the fire and the flaws will be shown here.
• This is about truth, not hype.
If there’s greatness in this line — and I believe there is — we’ll reveal it together over time.
The hunt is still young, and I’m not stopping until the right male is found. This is a long game, and I’m here for it.
— Purple Flamethrower 
Gauge Green Group / Genetic Designer Archive Project - Overgrow.com
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