Krawalle!! 
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If u pull out 50k seeds u will instantly think that its just pure scam to sell seeds for 300 bucks.
I mean, if u have an cutting for 30 years… i think then it is fine… 30 years caring for it… or put some work in (years to breeding an IBL or an true F1)… then 100 Euro is fair… but like wizzard trees 250 bucks for 6 seeds is really wierd.
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Dude I am totally with you. I would never go and buy their flower. My initial post was meant to highlight that Headbanger seems to be on the rise right now, at a consumer level. 
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If you (not you) think you can charge more (so you think you are better) than the established “leaders” with other people’s work… come on.
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Sure, I understand.
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I think everything up to 5 bucks per seed is fair and shows a “love for the game”.
Everything up to 10 bucks per seed is “fair game, let them have it” if the work involved is solid and the genetics are really that good.
Anything beyond 10 bucks a seed will always remain a cash grab and plain “weird” to me.
Gage Green Group is one of those breeders that keep exceeding that limit and made it part of their marketing spin or whatever.
That’s why I tagged the one guy here on the forum that claims to be growing a bunch of it at the moment.
Very curious what comes out of it as I kept seeing Gage Green and I kept hearing about them and how important they are to the industry and that they are one of those “everything is fire” breeders, supposedly.
But I never saw a conclusive grow log or got the impression that their gear is revolutionising in one way or the other and would justify their price tag.
Or put it like this:
If their gear was really that amazing, people would still buy and grow it in numbers which simply doesn’t seem to be the case.
Same with Archive which is arguably even more hyped.
I don’t doubt both are solid breeders with solid gear but why I would buy and grow them over say Rare Dankness (who seem to be on the same or at least a similar level but cost way less) I don’t understand.
Maybe I make an order at greatlakegenetics at some point to get some Bodhi gear, which I always had on my list as well. And if I am lucky I get some Gage Green and Archive stuff on sale there and give it a try myself.
I have seen some of their packs on sale at greatlakes for under 100 bucks a pack before. At that price range it might be worth to check if the hype is founded or not.
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Anything more than 10 I want a happy ending and a pizza with it.
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I put the work in as best as i can but im not anyway near @santero for example, and i share his view on seeds… i think 30 bucks for a pack of seeds is more then enough… But vs. SAN im just a beginner to be honest.
Like 8 months for this project… i really tested as best as i could the parents… now to see the progeny grow is just the best feeling in the world… i hope u guys will like it!!! 
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those “larry banner” were actually not expected to happen in the 1st place 
i did send cyx the “larry og bx4 pheno #3”-clone i found in a pack
of aficionado (so he can gropw it and tell me if he liked her). but he
immediately put her “to work” (unseen, haha!!) and made seed he
wanted to sell (of course, lol!) … but the clone was not meant to be
pimped out as a “san cut”-progeny immediately without even one
grow to evaluety the plant
after a little back and forth, cyx agreed to my wish that this is not to be
sold or used for promotion in a shop … so, now the larry banner-cross
is a shareable line, available to anyone interested. it will be shared only,
never sold or used as a shop-freebie.
cyx is sending me the bulk, so i can make sure that
everyone interested gets some if they want some.
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i will ask for grows from people i send it to, but
you can’t attatch any strings to a free gift, bro 
whenever those will be grown is not for us to decide.
let’s hope the line is interesting enough, so it bets grown soon.
i have no doubt you’ll get some feedback about the male used.
so, the line and the pics might help to evaluate the banner-male
you picked for your crosses
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we see a few things the same, but no … we are not a unit or
anyting. we are each our own entities and we are friends (like
i am friends to many people here). i like to help him with the
basic stuff, like how to water plants or how to make seeds ect.
i’ll always help everyone if i can and it is/stays appreciated 
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I didnt attached any strings.
Just said i would like that people will grow them instead of putting them for 20 years into the fridge, and i would consider those people to send them first.
but i know what u mean, and thats fine u are right.
And i know u send them anyway to anyone and thats fine.
I shipped almost all the seeds to you, and now u can decide what to do with them…
Btw… the first time we spoke about that… it was my plan to send it to seedheaven as freebies and share it 100% with the people here… so there was not “i sell them” at the beginning. I had the thought later… but then… u said u dont want that and thats what we doing… we share them with the people here. ONLY here.
PS: If they arrive let me know ill send the rest then to you as well.
i still have 100 seeds and i will grow in any run few of them to find a keeper.
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The masses love good descriptions more than they love good weed.
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Oh i bet.
Larry Banner will be straight KUSH. If u search a really good kush, u should consider asking SAN for those Larry Banners.
They will fucking knock your head off, i bet 
Male was close to the #3 “pheno” that Jason describes… he was real OG… I think those seeds are something special and it will be fucking awesome to search through them.
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like i said … the line was never meant to happen
you were supposed to check out the clone and not hit her unseen, lol.
but after we had a little back and forth and then agreed on
the final method to get them out to peops, it all became a
good thing in the end
others might/would have been pissed you using her unseen, but you are
not around long enough to really know the “etiquette”, so it’s totally cool
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An awesome thing! Have to show you my girl, its awesome.
And everyone can experience it… what else u can ask for?
Hey - i didnt shared the cut with anyone, so at least u can bet on me
Would never do that, u know that
To answer your question, i liked the cut a lot.
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I haven’t looked into that Larry or Banner stuff yet. Overload of info for some time now.
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i initially didn’t want it to be shared to fast or uncontrolled,
because then i could land in shops or so … but as long as
it is private = no problem on sharing anything i gave out
she look realy beautiful in your cabs, bro 
another example:
(after an initial tiny restriction) the cherry tini-
clone hopefully gets shared far and wide 
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Then just try it out!
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@Chea1
that’s a nice opportunity to get to know both …
lemme send you some after cyx send em over.
i will add them as an extra to every share i do in the future
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I only like Kush when it gives me a sativa headhigh. Master Kush does that, others might be more indica leaning. I don’t know.
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They really should arrive today actually
And the RS11 x Banner for you is seperate in a AB Pack u will see it when u opened it.
Hope u like it
After the harvest.
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