my sentiments exactly 
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great job man. your plants look A+
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Karma talks about his sour d. cut in Potcast interview episode 36 - Stream episode Episode 36 ft Karma of Karma Genetics by The Pot Cast podcast | Listen online for free on SoundCloud
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I looooove Sour Diesel, too. It’s not my favorite high, but it’s the absolute best-tasting weed ever. To me, at least.
I’ve got a few of Karma’s Headbangers (Sour Diesel x Biker Kush) vegging right now, gonna flip them on November 1. The only thing is, Karma used Rez’s Sour Diesel IBL for that cross. As I understand it, that isn’t a great representation of SD. What I’ve read about the Headbanger is that it’s got the sour flavor down, but it’s missing the diesel element. I’m gonna start a log here pretty soon, I’ll try to remember to tag you, @Kingmambo if you’re interested. I bought three packs a few months ago, so this will definitely not be the only time I run these.
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As I have been told the version before the IBL was the best version he put out. SDV3 I think is what it was called.
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I know what it looks like. It’s the one strain that I can always identify just based on the looks. It’s got these wiry pistils that are specific to SD. Sometimes they’re almost pink-ish (that’s not the right word, but it’s the best way I can describe it), sometimes they’re more orange/copper/red, but they have a way of growing that seems specific to Sour Diesel only. I’m not the best at describing things accurately, but whenever I see pictures or nugs in person (and I haven’t seen any real Sour Diesel around in a whiiiiiiile), I can immediately tell that it’s Sour Diesel. It looks like Sour Diesel. And no other strain looks like it.
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I have a family member that ran a lot of Rez’s gear and had a SDV3 mom for 10+years. I am going to pop all the sour diesel and crosses I have eventually and he is going to help me hunt for a good pheno. Maybe I can hunt something out that is similar.
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I most definitely will be watching!
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That’s pretty awesome being able to tell just by looking, hopefully one day when it’s easy to ship clones across countries it’d be awesome to be able to get a real sour cut grown & be able to be a sour detective myself hahahha
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I have half a pack of Seedsman’s SD. What I started before had very low germ rates and the ones that hatched were weak sisters; all three damped off. I haven’t heard much about their SD but I don’t have a lot of faith it will be what I’m looking for.
The hunt continues. Join us next week when Marlon Perkins makes Jim approach an angry tiger.
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@minitiger are you saying mine does look like it? Or count mine out?
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That’s correct. In a world where no genetics belong to no man, you gotta do what you gotta do…
Once you release your genetics, botching about what crosses are made or not only hurts one self.
People should feel fluttered when someone uses their work, it says they like it and you can pat yourself in the back after that. As a reward.
I do not believe in that code of honour among breeders and whatnot… What if people decided to do the same with carrots and oranges?
Mad
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It’s hard to tell from the pics you posted. Pics of dried and cured buds would be more telling. That’s been my only experience with Sour Diesel, dried and cured flowers. Never grown it. But if it smells like SD and tastes like SD, then that’s all that really matters. To me, at least. It’s that fucking Sour Diesel flavor… Nothing else like it. So delicious. Like I said, I don’t LOVE the SD high, but I looooove the way it tastes. So much so that I’m willing to be stoned in a way that isn’t my favorite just to taste it haha.
I am definitely not saying that you don’t have legitimate Sour Diesel haha. I don’t do that,”Nuh uh you’re wrong!” internet bullshit. If whatever you’re growing seems like Sour Diesel to you, that’s all that really matters.
Edit: but if you don’t know what exactly it is, I don’t think I’d go around telling people it’s Sour Diesel. Especially if you’re gonna be sending seeds of it out. That’s how all of this confusion starts.
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Yeah, what you said. Every breeder is piggybacking off of somebody else’s work. It’s been that way for decades. That whole,”They took my genetics and made something else, they owe me!” nonsense is just that: nonsense. Fuck breeders who try to claim that they’re the only ones who are “allowed” to work their genetics. Because they were never “their” genetics to begin with.
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I make no guarantee about what this actually is, neither stated nor implied. After speaking with a few people, I ended up here with the possibility that I do have it. 
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what each one chooses to do is his path. if you worked for years to stabilize a strain, or create a pedigree and someone took your work and improvised upon it or used it as the base for their own work, great. taking someone’s work and then profiting however is another story. no man own’s a seed, sure, but without any amount of honor or integrity you end up with what we have in the cannabis world now. I started smoking weed in the 80’s and don’t really dig the patents and ownership either so I’m with you guys there, but if you want to profit off another breeders hard work, give them the respect of a shout. for all I know copycat may have done just that, after all Karma is pretty cool and wouldn’t give him shit anyways most likely. either way we can agree or disagree but communication is the key
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If they worked it, improved it beyond just making F2/S1 from your pack of seeds, or out crossed and tested it, then they did some work. But to just F2 without working a line further and profiting, maybe even changing the name, that’s just greedy and lazy. At the least, if they used the original name and gave breeder credit, that’s something.
Don’t let this be like pedigree registered dogs, where you have to negotiate breeding rights of the dog you “bought”.
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Oh no, now that I think of it, if it becomes federally legal and things all go to licensing and patents, the AKC dog breeding model may be the best way to moderate the licensed breeding/sales of seed and genetics.
Edit: in a nutshell, when you buy pups from a registered breeder, and the dog is of some pedigree, you pay amount “A” to have the dog fixed so no breeding, amount “B” to let the breeder borrow your dog and have exclusive breeding rights and own the pups, or you amount “C” to have full breeding rights and have the papers to back it up.
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I agree with bodhi I think he talks about it either episode 9 of the pot cast or 10 about what his opinion is on what people do with his stuff. He says if you’re going to sell it he would like it to be worked out at least 2 generations iirc, but preservation when it’s not being sold or worked much & people doing hybrids with their own stuff is fine…
I think as long as people give credit, don’t rename it, are using verified real cuts and aren’t just dropping hermie untested messes personally I would message the breeder if I was gonna sell his stuff at an S1 or F2 but if you’re putting in quality work like CSI Humboldt with his TK S1’s or Zkittlez S1 then I have nothing but props for someone S1ing them and releasing them.
I’m sure within the next decade strains will get very licensed good time to get some great strains and some land races since they can’t be copyrighted. Considering the hype market and how expensive/exclusive a lot of these cuts and strains are becoming I have no doubt breeders will license their strains but it kinda makes me laugh a little because these strains all came from places like india, afghan, thailand, etc… when will those farmers get their copyright check their ancestors bred it for thousands of years right? 
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