Just an interesting question that popped into my head today when thinking about seeds from a collector’s POV.
I’m curious what everyone really wishes they could get their hands on and what people think would really hold or gain value over time.
Peace!
Archive Seed Bank “Flavour Pack” the original drop 
Humboldt Seed Co “Very Cherry” and “Blueberry Muffin” regular seeds. HSC went almost strictly fems, and I missed the boat on their reg offerings.
Thug Pug PBB original orange pack, these went for upward of 1000usd at one point
Niiiice!
Love these choices. PBB would be an epic score.
Thanks for answering!
Cannabiogen Peyote Purple, Cannabiogen Destroyer. Those two I had at one time, didn’t know what I had at the time. Grew them out all willy nilly for smoke and never took clones or reproduced. This was many many years ago of course. I still miss those both very much. That old Cannabiogen gear was really great.
Ahh, interesting. I’ve never heard of Cannabiogen, I’ll have to check them out. Are they still in business?
What did you dig so much about those strains? Peyote Purple is a sweet name.
They haven’t been around for quite sometime. Khaki passed away and the company died too I believe. Peyote purple was pretty much the best Bubba Kush you could ever get your hands on. Squat little purple plants covered in frost, smelled like shampoo and chocolate with a super balanced up effects and pain relief quality. Destroyer was a killer sativa that had powerful effects that were all cerebral and mind melting for me, some of the most beautiful plants ive ever grown and still to this day probably some of the best plants ever. Cannabiogen seeds were magic.
Wow ok, got it. That’s sad to hear. Seems like they bred some great genetics.
As someone obsessed with bubba kush, sounds like peyote purple would have been right up my alley.
I wonder if any packs or cuts are still circulating out there, or stashed away in the back of someone’s fridge…
@Mattman i wondered why Cannabiogen was no longer around! Darn! I would love to get some Destroyer beans!
I used to make portfolio modeling/analysis software for this one sector. i keep a well diversified portfolio of beans with over 200 strains/crosses and leaned hard into OG beans due to benefit/cost ratios. Some of my favorite plants, no keepers yet, have been OG beans. Making your own beans can really beef up your portfolio. Think of your fav crossed to all your other near favs.
Simons White Russian from Serious seeds particularly the 2003 Drop He refined by then and had her super strong and stable descended from that legendary male he lost.If i knew back then what i know now i would have Pawned all my shit and sold my truck and bought every pack i could have.That weed was godamn unstoppable easily 350$ a zip today if it was the same White out foggy laugh your dick into the dirt high.The best one hit weed I can remember 2 hits off a bud the size of your pinky nail.Jps Frankenstein (Pictured is a descendant of a Multi cross with Simons 98 White Russian another kickass weed and one of my favorites
I have a couple packs of the TP PBB. I might be willing to let one go…
Dang that’s epic actually! I’d be super keen to see what that looks like. Any interest in sharing or speaking more about your method?
NEED that type of high back in my life, lmao!
@asclepius Good for you! Score! 
What are your plans for them?
Yep White Russian is one to treasure I don’t know if these are from 2000 but I heard there are 18+ years old maybe is the one you are mentioning.
Holy Shit want to trade sometime?
I know those yellow cards very well.Those are the real deal
White Rhino from Nirvana, early 00s vintage.
Super Lemon Haze regulars from the original greenhouse release .
Snow Lotus from Bodhi. He released pack of what became his first big breeder male. I regret sleeping on those. His Goji OG f1 packs are $ too
Sure. Ultimately, the software we developed evaluated various portfolio on a risk to reward basis (i.e. Efficient Frontier). Much of the analysis at the portfolio level might be incremental calculations, or additions/subtractions from the portfolio. The incremental value of an asset in your portfolio may be more or less than the natural value of that asset outside the context of a portfolio or tax consolidation. Knowing this is important and can drive parties to reach a deal if the spread is beneficial. Ring fence concepts, usually generated through fiscal terms, are critical to this calculation. So, it’s a bunch of cash flow profiles rolled up to a total value for a portfolio or segment of a portfolio. Each asset, all the streams (price, production, etc.) have distributions around them and correlation between each distribution which is leverage in a monte carlo simulation. There is risking on a probabilistic basis, but we also use probability and decision trees to describe the event outcomes discretely. It’s valuation software, but it allows for optimization given the constraints (ex. capital, cost of capital) and preferences for risk. There are all sorts of inter party and financial arrangements, credit facilities, etc. that can make this pretty messy in some cases.
Now, getting all the profiles, distributions, cases and correlations is a lot of other work.
Amazing. Sounds extremely thorough… and tbh a bit above my paygrade.
How do you put this into practice? Do you have an ‘investment portfolio’ of seeds? Or do you use this to find valuable packs and resell them?
I’m interested in this whole concept tbh!
step 1 is graduating into a good job market.
i was trained by an old man who was an expert.
I didn’t need an advanced degree, but it would have helped getting better jobs when they were using masters programs to force hire visa programs.
Now for seeds, I started by chasing variety and preparing crop combinations to meet my needs. x amount of Sativa dome and y amount of indica dom. Later, I needed to tend to the preferences of others which usually means more indica than I want. At one point i had a 3 year plan with options based on seed count and chance of not popping to make sure i would have the correct combination. I might have just one bean of something special, but if it doesn’t pop, i would need a back up. Perhaps if one backup was used, it would invalidate one of the initial selections. this is mostly OCD my opinion, it is a type of risk management/modeling.
In a spreadsheet model, I would map cost, yield and timing outcomes on a risked basis. This enabled me to make decisions about making additions to my equipment or to plan for vacations, harvests, etc. Now, after many runs, I can predict my yield/costs withing 10pct.
Each crop has a sheet like this:
Then, i have a rollup sheet to evaluate longer run results. I know exactly how much my weed costs me, and what investing in more lighting is worth. I even add a labor cost to know what i might be worth on the market. one time i bought these super cheap lower/side lights. If you check the additional yield it wasn’t much, but after doing the math and risking things it made sense. For like 40 bucks up front and a few dollars per grow, i get about 30 or more extra grams. each round.
