Thanks! I will do that
Where’d you buy from, what’d ya get, and how much you spend?
What do you mean? I can put in bags when read 70% and they will not mold but drop the moisture until it hits the sweet spot?
No 420noob. What goes in as far as humidity, stays in. If you loose moisture you don’t have it sealed properly.
In at 70 out at 70.
I do put the buds in slightly before I think they are dry enough, check the moisture level with a meter and, possibly, burp the bag ~ 3 times to get it down to proper. Then it stays solidly at that level (usually ~ 62%).
I don’t even check humidity. 14 day dry, out in my shed in the fall with a six inch fan blowing on med facing the opposite direction of flowers. Clipped right into 1 lb groves. One and Done.
Ok kinda what I thought that comment just struck weird with me. How about bag size like for me to get an oz in the oz bag I’d have to smash the hell out of it. So that doesn’t meet the fill to 80% full unless I smash more. Is this probably cause of smaller lights so buds aren’t as dense or is this something others have noticed as well? I also usually burp mine down a couple times as well to get into low 60s. 62 is about the highest humidity you want correct?
I try to get as close to 61% as possible. I have some sitting at 63 that seem fine and I don’t like going under 58.
I feel the same. One oz bags do not hold one oz unless they are some tight / heavy buds. I don’t worry about the weight too much. Most of the bags I bought were 1/4 lb. I just fill till I’m comfortable with the amount in there. I would never smash my buds. I have vacuum packed some after cure but I really enjoy breaking the pristine buds apart. I only vacuum pack the stuff that will be used for edibles for my wife and my friend that I supply meds to now.
I really need to buy some more 1/4 lb bags soon. I’ll have that LPC from three plants coming into harvest time and I don’t want to be using used bags.
I cleaned one with alcohol and it’s better but still has some funk from the Swakhammer that was in it before. I don’t want to transfer any odor to the buds that I’ll be curing next. Maybe another washing with alcohol will do the trick.
No,
TerpLoc technology creates the perfect environment for maintaining quality and consistency in flower from packaging to purchase. Its biggest attribute comes during curing. Unlike past methods of curing where the flowers would be agitated and ‘burped’ on a daily basis, TerpLoc automatically pushes out excess moisture and unwanted oxygen. This creates the perfect environment for allowing both the cannabinoids and terpenes to mature.
I used oz bags. I put them in the fridge. They were close to ready but still would need to be burped to keep the humidity down. A month later I am on the 3rd grove bag. they just keep getting better. No burping.
Now if you tried that in a stuffed one pound bag you could wind up with mold if you were at 70% going in before it let enough moisture out to prevent it.
I hang dry for 14 days and clip nugs into those hand baskets you see at Walmart. Dump a basket into another basket every day for 3 days. Then into a 1lb grove.
I admire a streamlined system! Simplicity itself
I agree @MoBilly the bags are definitely smaller. It does seem like it needs double the size so the buds aren’t smashed together and have space to breathe
However I’m learning high humidity and all this rain, even letting bags sit for an hr or 2 in the open hasn’t been enough to dry, driving humidity too high causing mold to start sealed up and put into drawers. I’ve NEVER had to deal with mold, but these bags got it started within days, and now I’ve developed a trick to neutralize it before it permeates the odor and flavor. (on shags island thread for those intrigued) But even having several large buds as I did for my B entry, that didn’t prevent it happening (new bud is being harvested and dried in a day or so). So depending on humidity environment indoors/outdoors I’d be cautious on sealing the bags, unless really dry that only enough moisture in the center springs it back. I’m seeing drying may be altered to be far drier crispy before going in the bag, since it’s different than retaining moisture to evaporate gradually in jars to finish drying and curing, that process doesn’t happen in these bags, there’s definitely a humidity seal lock to them not apparent at first but later it creeps up. I’m very diligent about burping so the mold happened very fast between sealings and airing out. DEFINITELY well dried crispy state before going into the bags. Drying while retaining moisture is NO NO with these bags, so learn from my mistake if that’s how you’re drying your harvest, especially if you’re used to slow jar drying method
A big sack like that you could always wash for some bubble hash
I was thinking the same. Trying to think what I’m going to do with it wash it… oil. Butter. Idk. I’ve never cured trim before so I thought I’d let it sit for a while and see if the return product is any better than just dry and wash or use.
I’m about to do my first wash after harvest in a few days. It’s just too much trim for me to make edibles and I figure hash would be the fastest way to use it up
I was thinking about getting a gallon of everclear. Making green dragon. I got pg vg mixed fluid. Going to make vape juice thc… then oil or butter. I have twice this much. I’m going to be making a bunch of stuff. I might throw a lb in for bubble as well.
@Herbie
It seems you were sort of correct. The buds have to be within the optimal dried range before going in the bags but if you hit that sweet spot it will expel any condensation/moisture that may build up afterwards. You have to start at the right level of moisture because the bud will mold, if not, before you can say “mold”.
Here is what the Grove Bag website says about it in frequently asked questions.
When is bud ready for a Grove Bag?
Grove Bags are designed specifically for curing and storing cannabis. It is not possible to dry wet flower in a Grove Bag. With TerpLoc technology, the optimal moisture levels to begin curing are between 10 and 12 percent. If moisture content is anywhere outside of this range, it can spur mold growth and degrade the strain’s terpene profile.
When is bud ready for a Grove Bag?
Moisture content can be tested using a moisture meter in the stem of a bud. When flower has dried to this point, Grove Bags can consistently stabilize its microclimate humidity levels between 58 and 62 percent relative humidity (RH). Most of the time, an 11 percent moisture level is achieved after 10 to 14 days of drying, but using a moisture meter allows growers an additional level of certainty that could make all the difference in the final product.
How does TerpLoc prevent mold growth?
TerpLoc technology regulates the entire contents of the bag, so mold is never an issue as long as the bud is at optimal conditions for a Grove Bags cure. The moisture content of the buds should be within 10 and 12 percent, 25 percent of the bag should be left empty to provide the headspace needed for the technology to work, and before storing the bags to cure, each bag should be heat sealed. When these steps are taken and these conditions are met, Grove Bags stored in a cool and dark space will prevent the build up of harmful gasses and release them from the bag so no mold spores develop.
What is the best way to store Grove Bags?
Before storing Grove Bags, leave 25 percent of the bag empty and then heat seal it to secure the curing microclimate. Because the Grove Bags are equipped with UV protection, they don’t need to be in a completely dark room. For best results, bags should be stored in a dim room that stays around 60 degrees.
Does the bag eliminate the need for humidity packs?
If a moisture meter in the stem of a bud reads between 10 and 12 percent, the moisture content of the flower is at an ideal level for a Grove Bags cure. There is no need for a humidity pack or any additional elements as long as the moisture content of the flower is in that designated range. If the moisture content is too low, Grove Bags suggests adding a cannabis fan leaf from a live plant to the bag. The technology in the bag will use the additional moisture in the leaf to achieve an appropriate moisture level for a successful cure.
I included a little more information that was on the frequently asked questions page on the Grove Bag site because it answers a few questions that have been brought up on here.
Long story short. Hang dry (if that’s your method) until you reach that 10 - 12% range and then bag them. They’ll keep at that range but you can’t dry green buds in the bags. It could cost you a harvest.
I tried a moisture probe but never got consistent readings from the two I tried. My brother has a real good one he uses on lumber and it worked but not consistent from one spot on the stem to another. Now I go by feel and if I have to I burp the bags a few times to get the right reading on my drop in moisture meter.
I hope this information helps someone.
Here is the link to that page.
Again thank you all for your input on this thread. I’ve learned a lot about the curing process from your posts on the subject.
I use an oven bag to get a slower dry the last day or two. Plus an RH sensor. Don’t have a moisture meter like you guys are using. I get it down to about 65% at least, which is about the rise I would get in a jar before burping. Then I used the Grove Bag.
I have no appliance other than a refrigerator that is at or below 60 F constantly
My quote above is also from their website.
I definitely get that bro. The root cellar works well for me. It stays nice and cool and has a heavy steel door with two deadbolt locks installed. It’s also inside an area where I run my seven livestock guardian dogs so that gives me a certain amount of piece of mind as well. lol