Growing ONLY the fasciated stem

[PsillyRabbit]

I wouldn’t classify this as “advanced” but it does seem to fit the experimental description of the forum.

I’ve had a few faceted stems over the years, usually just cut em off and move on. I’ve also encountered crested buds during flower, from memory, they seemed like regular buds with nothing too odd about their structure.

Has anyone experienced poor quality with buds that develop on fasciated stems?
Has anyone cut off a fasciated branch and tried cloning it?
Has anyone had success taking clones from a faceted branch and ended up with clones that also exhibited fasciated growth?

Im gonna exhaust way too much time, money and energy into this project. I plan on vegging this arm out for the next 100+ day then plant her in the ground when its the size of a small child for the rest of the summer.
I know she is female because she threw out some prehairs.
When repotting, I oriented the fasciated branch to be in the ideal position to become the main leader. In addition to my regular feeding and soil amendments, I will incorporate aloe vera, seaweed extract, coconut water, and willow extract into the feeding schedule. I believe this combination will support the unique demands of the fasciated arm.

Cytokinins, particularly those found in seaweed and coconut water, play a crucial role in promoting cell division and nutrient transport. I hope that consistent exposure to these hormones will stimulate robust, balanced growth and strengthen the arm as it develops. Meanwhile, aloe vera and willow extract provide auxins and salicylic acid to reduce stress and enhance overall plant vigor, ensuring the plant can sustain its accelerated growth.

Honestly using coconut water for plants is just silly. I wouldn’t normally recommend it. However, I’ve always been curious about its potential benefits, as it contains sugars, vitamins, minerals, and plant hormones that support plant growth and cell division for an entire “tree!”

I believe these products will not only support the overall health of the plant but also specifically nourish the fasciated arm, helping it grow into the largest of its kind ever documented.

I considered snipping the rest of the plant but currently have bonsai wire LSTing the main leader in a spiral around the facetted basal arm. I think leaving the main leader intact for now helps to nurse and support the fasciated arm. As it grows larger, I can reassess and decide whether to reduce the main leader further
I’m eager to share my progress and learn from the community’s experiences!"

[Coghunter]

@PsillyRabbit

Honestly using coconut water for plants is just silly.

LoL i wouldnt say that, u get a point/experiment, lets check it out

All for science PsillyRabbit

[PsillyRabbit]

So you had a fasciated main leader, that pretty cool. How long did you veg her? So it wasn’t really smokable? Or it was the yield that was upsetting?

[Emeraldgreen]

My experience with this is it’s a waste of time and space. Plants don’t yield as well or produce the same quality of bud. If your jars are full and you need to see for yourself have at it

[yardgrazer]

I had a similar looking fasciated plant once, with an affected cola. I wouldn’t say it was positive, from what I recall of it there was a lot of stem and not that much flower. If in the future I was growing numbers and had some plants with fasciated stems I’d probably get rid of them.

Still, interesting to experiment.

[PsillyRabbit]

I dont think its about needing to see for myself. More about just doing it -to do it. Like the topsy turvy. I’m not doing it for the bud thats for sure.

[resimax]

Yeah, I got two main colas from a sucker splitting off at the top node. One of them produced a crested flower, and the other one normal. It was veged outdoors, for about 13.5 weeks. The quality of the bud was low where it crested. There was also a very high leaf to bud ratio. The overall yield was quite small too, mostly due to 90% of the bud being the top cola. I hashed the whole plant because it sucked.

[PsillyRabbit]

Well I commend your efforts. It’s the record to beat. I cant find anything bigger- documented anyway.

Maybe if I wanna get some bud from it I can attempts some grafts on to her when she’s a kid sized cactus. I dont think that would talk away from the craziness.

[Mithridate]

I love fasciated plants! They get culled automatically, saving on space and resources <3

[PsillyRabbit]

On top of my regular feeding schedule chat gpt help me develop this regimen using the above mentioned items.

Day 1	Willow Extract (0.25g per 250 mL, root drench) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 7	Coconut Water (330 mL per gallon) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 14	Willow Extract (0.25g per 250 mL, root drench or foliar spray) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 21	Kelp Top Dressing (apply, then water in with regular water)
Day 28	Coconut Water (330 mL per gallon) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 35	Willow Extract (0.25g per 250 mL, root drench or foliar spray) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 42	Kelp Top Dressing (apply, then water in with regular water)
Day 49	Coconut Water (330 mL per gallon) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 56	Willow Extract (0.25g per 250 mL, root drench or foliar spray) + Aloe Water (1 tbsp per gallon)
Day 63	Kelp Top Dressing (apply, then water in with regular water)

[HolyAngel]

you know aspirin IS willow bark extract, right?

[PsillyRabbit]

*Historically, meadowsweet was revered as a key herb in herbal medicine, with its name even contributing to the etymology of aspirin (derived from the plant’s old genus name, Spiraea).

aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) is no longer derived from willow bark in modern pharmaceutical production. While willow bark was the original source of salicin, the precursor to aspirin, modern aspirin is now synthesized entirely in laboratories.

Its been one week since I started this regimen and the plant has received everything at least once.
Kinda hard to read in photos atm but the growth is steady. I do have auxiliary branches growing from the fasciated branch. I’ll let them grow until i can clone them.

What do you guys think. Cut the main plant ?or let her “nurse” this branch.

Sorry LJ if one week doesn’t look differnt enough to warrant a post.

[Tracker]

Interesting experiment. That plant looks crazy. If I walked passed it outside, I probably wouldn’t even recognize it as cannabis at this point in it’s growth, and I usually pay attention to all the plants I walk past.

[PsillyRabbit]

yeah i would say it’s almost as ornamental as cannabis can get.
If it was variegated too- forget about it…

[breadwinner]

Have you taken cuts off it yet? It looks like it might be good mom for making lots of snips?

[PsillyRabbit]

I have cuttings from the plant but the flat arm hasn’t grown limbs big enough to clone yet.

[WelderDan]

OK, now I am curious. I’ve only encountered one, and it was male and got culled. I wanna see what that puppy does

[PsillyRabbit]

Just a lil update 3 weeks later. Shes taking her time but still pretty similar. It does look like it finally beat out the original meristem. This thing is fuckin weird. Where it connects to the main trunk the branch is actually round now.
The fasciation is actually throwing out normal round arms that i keep cutting off.

[Oldguy]

Crazy number of branches coming out of that one. Looks wild.

[PsillyRabbit]

Another 3 weeks. It hard to take a picture of the top.Getting crazy. Cant wait to give it another 60 days or so before its planted to grow the entire summer.

Round branches keep trying to take over and have to be removed every few days. I did end up just leaving the original leader but it has lost all dominance.