Growing out the seeds that were gifted to me

Gaz29 · July 15, 2018, 3:37pm

@Scissor-Hanz mate,
I have grown auto’s straight to final pots too, but I find up- potting to be better ( for me) as soon as I see pistils I stick em in final pots and i do not too bad, and when the auto’s start to bloom kp feeding grow nutes til maybe stretch is over and bloom nutes when going into full bloom… hope this helps bro…

Nice growing @Cobra50 , what’s your absolute favourite plant you’ve grown on this thread.?
Excellent info on some seeds that a lot of us have, so we can have a look here when we crack them…
Happy growing bud,
Gaz

Cobra50 · July 15, 2018, 8:07pm

@Scissor-Hanz, I must’ve been thinking about my Sweet Tooth plants when I said that, they got that kind of stretching in Flowering. That is not the description of the autos.

Thank you. They do look really nice.

I think it is in no small part due to the SolSheet original I bought from @Baudelaire’s SolStrip Photon Solutions. When I had my Sweet Tooth vegging under the fluoros right next to the SolSheet, I needed to rotate the order of the STs daily, because the one closest to the SolSheet kept bending towards it. For a small lamp, it makes big light.

@Gaz29, Since I’ve only sampled the Durban’s and my auto of the new seeds and that was a fast dry, I can only say for final result of the buzz quality. For that, I’d have to say I really like the LR x LDs.

As far as growing ease, I think the Sweet Tooth #4 has been the easiest so far. Seems to be the quickest as well so far. The flowering stage they’re at now looks about a week ahead of the actual time they’ve been in there.

For all around aesthetics, I again like the LR x LD. It was a beautiful plant, very colorful. It was an easy plant to grow as well

Thank you. There is more than 1 way to give back the the seed community, I guess.

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ReikoX · July 16, 2018, 2:46pm

Glad you enjoyed those brother. If you want some of my other Lowryde crosses to try out, hit me up.

Cobra50 · July 17, 2018, 10:10pm

While it is not yet time for the curing to be done, I couldn’t help stop myself from taking a small branch from 80 (the LR x LD auto I just harvested) and quick drying it yesterday. Taste got better (expected, more curing time than the last samples I smoked). The buzz is quite good! It is very similar to my Purple in that regard. No more sampling for a week (unless I succumb to temptation again ). I want to taste and smell her flavor at the next smoke. The buzz may even improve a bit as well .

It feels like forever while waiting for the Durbans to get ready to harvest. The last check in the microscope showed a small number of amber trikes, 5-10% maybe. They are at 76 days of Flowering.

It also seems like the seedlings are taking a long time as well. This is all just my impatience coming through, it is just so exciting to have different strains growing. They are progressing at about the same rate as the other seeds have so far.

That’s all for now, I just thought those of you whom are also growing @ReikoX’s autos would appreciate a little update.

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 2:30pm

@Jellypowered & @Baudelaire: I’ve been patiently waiting for the trichomes on the Durban plants to turn amber. Today, #74 told me she is ready NOW.

She has bananas sparsely sprinkled on her. So, I paid attention and harvested her on Flower day 80 at 30.25" tall. Her sister #75, has no bananas and only about 15% of her trichomes are amber, but I’ll harvest here tomorrow anyway.

@ReikoX, my newest LR x LD plants, 90 & 91, are 23" tall. That makes them 9" taller that 80 was at harvest.

With these being seedless, I should have a substantial yield from them.

@Jellypowered & @Kalgrae: the 4 (BC Mango x BC Night Nurse) x Diesel Moonshine seedlings are looking good. It is getting harder and harder to see the 8 days difference in age of 96 & 97 to 98 & 99

Another week or 2 will primordia. I can’t wait to see how many of each I get.

@Sebring, Number 100 is doing really well.

Unfortunately, her sister 101, never grew. It got just so far and stopped. Good thing I have 70 more seeds.

The next seeds I will be growing out are Chuy Purps x Send Sight that I got from @pookie123 I should’ve gotten them in a few days ago, but I’ve been preoccupied in with finding the correct recipe for STS. I’ll probably get them in tomorrow.

I ran out of the STS I purchased. The plant I was reversing has continued making female flowers, so I need more. I’m going to make it myself. There are 8 different recipes that I have found. Since they come up with different amounts per liter of the ingredients, I’ve been on a mission to find the correct recipe. I accumulated all the data, worked out how much each recipe called for in terms of grams per liter so I could compare apples to apples. It turns out it is the one @ReikoX was using when he tried to reverse his Juanita is the correct recipe. Although, the majority of sources say to dilute it to 1:9 (solution:distilled water) to avoid damaging plant tissue, so I’ll be going that way.

With all I’ve been reading about using STS to reverse a female, I found I was not doing all I could to ensure a positive outcome. A good part of my failure was due to the instructions that I received along with my STS.

The instructions I got said to wait until the plant has been 12/12 for a week before spraying. Most instructions I found say to start a week before starting 12/12.

The instruction sheet said nothing about what time of its day to spray the plant. Consensus says to spray right after lights off because STS is highly sensitive to light.

The instruction sheet said nothing about storing the solution in the frig. Consensus says it goes bad at room temperature.

So, tomorrow I start again with the correct formula and good instructions on how to go about it. There should be time to get mature pollen form it before it is ready for the burn barrel.

I’ve been toying with the idea of pollinating a branch of my OG Kush with it. I think they’d make a good pairing.

Sebring · October 21, 2018, 5:12am

Glad at least one of OgKush stayed strong. Get that girl pregnant!!!
Your buds are a little airy on the previous photos, you might need to increase your light output, if that’s an option; it wasn’t for me for a few years, so it’s really a critique, not a criticism!

If it helps, I’ve attached the STS recipe I use below, I’ve tried a few recipes over the years and this is the one that always worked.

Preparation of STS:
First, a stock solution is made. It consists of two parts (A and B) that are initially mixed separately, then blended together. Part A is ALWAYS mixed into part B while stirring rapidly. Use distilled water; tap water may cause precipitates to form. Mix all solutions in as dark an area as you can while still being able to see what you’re doing.

Wear gloves while mixing and using these chemicals, and mix and use in a properly ventilated area. A mask will prevent the breathing of any dust, which is caustic. STS is colorless and odorless, and poses minimal health risks if used as described here. Note that silver nitrate and STS can cause brown stains upon drying, so spray over newspaper and avoid spilling.

Part A: .8 gram silver nitrate stirred into 500ml distilled water (1g/L
Part B: 3.16 grams sodium thiosulfate (anhydrous) stirred into 500ml distilled water (5g/L)
Use 4.9 grams sodium thiosulfate (pentahydrate) if anhydrous is unavailable. Either will work!

The silver nitrate dissolves within 15 seconds. The sodium thiosulfate takes 30-45 seconds to dissolve.

The silver nitrate solution (A) is then mixed into the sodium thiosulfate solution (B) while stirring rapidly. The resulting blend is stock silver thiosulfate solution (STS).

This stock solution is then diluted at a ratio of 1:9 to make a working solution. For example, 100ml of stock STS is added to 900ml of distilled water. This is then sprayed on select female plants.

Both the stock STS and the working solution should be wrapped in foil and refrigerated after use, as well as the powdered chemicals, to avoid activity loss. Excess working solution can be safely poured down the drain after use (with ample running water) with negligible environmental impact.

Each liter of stock STS will make ten 1-liter batches of working solution of STS. Distilled water must be used or most of the chemicals will precipitate out of solution in less than a day.

Application:
The STS working solution is sprayed on select female plants until runoff. Do the spraying over newspaper in a separate area from the flower room. You probably won’t smell anything, but ventilate anyway.
I have discovered that using a stronger concentration of STS does not make a plant more likely to produce pollen. It just burns/stresses the plant.

To produce a plant that is fully loaded with pollen sacks, but no flowers, start spraying right as you flip the plant to 12/12 light. Spray every 3 days for 14 days, then spray again after waiting 14 days and then wait another 14 days to spray one last time.

This application rate counters the ethylene production during it’s build up in early flowering and then provides maintenance applications to maintain the blocking of ethylene build up.

For producing just a branch or a small section of a plant with pollen sacks, reduced the number of applications during the first 14 days to once a week, and use newspaper or cardboard to block over spray from hitting unintended areas of the plant.

My conclusion is that STS in any concentration is only effective at inhibiting ethylene for a maximum of 3 weeks; at that point the plant’s natural female metabolism begins to take back control, and even a plant that is covered with male blooms doesn’t always finish the journey to manhood and produce pollen. A second or third spraying allows inhibition to last through week 6, which is more than enough time to release pollen.

Response times may vary slightly depending upon the strain. More specific times can be determined by trial with your own individual strains. In my application it takes around 26 days for the first pollen. 30-35 days seems optimum for planning purposes.

So, assuming that a target plant needs 4 weeks to produce fully mature seeds, a strain that takes 8 weeks to mature should be moved into flower at about the same time as the female>male plant. A target plant that finishes flowering in 6 weeks needs to be moved into flower later (10 days or so) so that it doesn’t finish before the seeds can fully mature.

One trick used by many seed producers is to move pollenated female plants back into an 18/6 light cycle where the seeds will continue to mature to completion, but the plant will halt it’s slow natural death cycle.

A seeded individual branch can be left to mature on a plant for a bit longer, while harvesting the other seedless buds if they finish first. Just leave enough leaves on the plant for it to stay healthy.

Cobra50 · July 23, 2018, 10:03am

@Sebring, I think it may be sativa related. The last time I grew out sativa was Neville’s haze. The buds looked the same with them. However, it could be they require much more light than the indica type plants.

It is also very hot in there. Even though the Flowering room is in the basement, it hits 93° a couple of times a week since the weather heated up. I have six high velocity fans blowing hot air out the door. Until I can afford to get a new central air unit, it is difficult getting cool air back in the room.

I literally spent days on this. When looking up online how to mix I found 8 different recipes.

I made a spreadsheet to tell me how many grams per liter there were of each chemical in each recipe. These recipes all ended up with very different grams per liter of each. The only posted recipes I found that agreed with another posting, was a word for word re-post of one of the recipes already in my list.

I got tired of trying to make sense of it, so I went where they’d. I visited the chemical companies that showed up in my search. There was no disagreement between them. The hardest part here was having to look up terms and words that are part of the chemistry world.

It turns out the mix @ReikoX is using for STS is mathematically correct.

The formula you posted is the most commonly re-posted of all the STS recipes. But, that does NOT make it correct. It looks like the original poster decided to save money by skimping on the silver nitrate, but reducing just that and not the thiosulfate, leaves extra sodium thiosulfate molecules in the solution. I see this as bad. That chemical is used in developing photographs. It is used to absorb any excess silver in the developing solution to prevent the images getting too dark. Seems to me the STS molecules would look like free silver molecules to the sodium thiosulfate, thereby diluting the solution even more. For any form of that formula to be correct, It would needed to be amended more like this:

For true silver thiosulfate, you mix it at a 1:4 molarity. A mole represents the weight of the molecules in the solution. One mole, I believe, is the grams per liter. The following information calls this “Molar Mass”. It is the weight you use when reducing the solution by a percentage.

Name: Silver Nitrate
Formula: AgNO3
Molar Mass: 169.8731

Name: Sodium Thiosulfate (Sodium Thiosulfate Pentahydrate)
Formula: Na2S2O3 (Na2S2O3.5H2O)
Molar Mass: 158.1077 (248.1841)

Name: Silver Thiosulfate
Formula: Ag2S2O3
Molar Mass: 327.8646

According to 3 the chemical company sites, the correct mixture for 1% silver thiosulfate solution would be:
1 part silver nitrate solution at 1.698731 grams per liter added to
4 parts sodium thiosulfate solution at 1.581077 grams per liter. (2.481841 per liter if using pentahydrate)

This, of course, gets diluted so we don’t kill our favorite green things. Common wisdom indicates using .1% solution
It doesn’t matter if you reduce the amount as long as both are reduced by the same amount same percentage

The difference between the anhydrous and pentahydrate sodium thiosulfate is pentahydrate has five H2O molecules bound with it to make it a crystal form. Once dissolved in water, the molar weight it the same as anhydrous since the water molecules strip away as soon as they hit the water.

There is one thing left out on all the STS mixing instructions from how the experts mix. They do all there mixing in a darkened cabinet because both solutions are reactive with light. Small wonder that STS is so sensitive to light, eh?

These application instructions, and others are where I learned the instructions that came with my purchased STS were very lacking.

I’m glad I did all the research. I actually understand the process now. I did re-spray my sweet tooth #4 fem. Having an adequate supply of STS to spray until runoff should get it right. I should have chosen just a branch to spray, but the plant was pretty small when I started. I’m sure the male buds that are on the plant now will eventually open but they are so deeply buried inside the female flowers that are continuing to grow that I might not see it, so I need the plant to make more.

shroomgod · July 23, 2018, 10:34am

@sebring how do you make female seeds ?

Sebring · July 23, 2018, 11:58pm

@Cobra50
I’m ashamed to say that I never bothered doing the chemistry on the formula just because it worked even doing the incorrect mix.

I’ve changed my weights to match your research, which I agree is correct. Glad you caught that when a bunch of us didn’t!

@schroomgod to make feminized seeds you need to trick a female plant into producing pollen. This is at it’s core what we’re doing with the STS solution. We’re blocking ethylene, which controls female sexual expression in cannabis, and in doing so the plant produces male sexual expression. Because the pollen from a female plant is XX, and not XY, it can only produce XX offspring. Therefore all seeds will be female.

If I want a lot of seeds I create 2 clones or gather 2 sister plants with traits I want. Then I spray one plant with STS as it enters sexual maturity, during 12/12 light cycle, and I shake the female with pollen over the other female with flowers.

If I only want a small number of seeds then I just hit a single branch with STS and let it pollinate the rest of the plant, because the rest of the plant that didn’t get the STS treatment will still produce enough ethylene to trigger flowering.

Cobra50 · July 24, 2018, 12:47am

@Sebring, that’s completely normal, since it works, to assume it is correct.

Apparently the mixture isn’t terribly fussy. As long as it contains silver, it appears it will work. It’s just that when mixed to different numbers, it leaves the possibility that the too strong solution will partially nullify the weaker one. The instructions for application were well thought out and very helpful.

I moved number 84 to my new Male room two days ago. Last night I gave her a good soaking with the stuff after lights out. Today the pistils have shrunk (they did that the last time as well). I take that as a good sign. I think I’ll go just 4 days between applications this time instead if 5.

Cheers

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 2:57pm

I just visited Sensi Seeds site and looked at their Durban plant. I think it may be normal for the Durban buds to look airy. Here is the only shot they were using in all their Durban ads:

The reason I chose the Sensi Seeds image is that @Baudelaire had told me he started with their Durban. My buds always looked like that, as witnessed by this image of 75 on Flower day 28

From the looks of this pic, I’m guessing the Sensi Star pic was taken about the same age as this one of 75. You just can’t miss they’re related.

Here are 4 of the 5 other plants under the 750 HPS at the same time.

Sorry about the HPS light, but at least you can see the buds. Three of these are (the last) Purples. They look like that even when they are alone under the HPS (a very rare occasion) so I am certain they are getting enough light. The one at F31 is a Sweet Tooth #4 and it looks very good. However, if you look at the leaves on the older plants, you’ll see heat damage.

My bushy Durban had that damage so bad, I thought it may have been nutes. All 6 plants (at the time) had equal lamp space and were close in size. This one was the only one to burn like this, the other 5 very a healthy green. This is also why I was diagnosing as nutes. It made more sense to me that one (new) plant could be using its nutes differently than the others. After a while, I realized it was using is food supply the same as its taller sister. I moved the remote temp probe to the top of each plant one at a time and found the corner where the Durban bush was sitting was about 4° higher than the other 6 spots. I had to re-adjust my fans for more equal distribution.

That is why if it is a problem, I think it would be heat related more than light. But I think it may be more DNA related. What ever the reason, by this time next year, I expect to have a SolStrip ladder for the light. The ladder form would allow the lights to be spread out overhead instead of one super luminous HPS. That should address the possible light issue. The fact that the I measure the surface temps on my SolStrips for veg and nursery and all 4 corn lights I have, at 85° and the surface temp of my 750W HPS bulb is close to 300°, should resolve any heat issues.

I also am looking at starting my plants no taller than 12" because the bottom of a tall plant doesn’t present much yield. The 18-22" plants often end up 4’ tall. As always, growing is a work in progress.

I have updates to post, but they’ll have to wait until later.

Sebring · July 24, 2018, 4:21am

I think it was just that one photo that looked airy, and you’re right that the genetics are just for airy buds. You’re also right that excess heat can prevent the buds from stacking denser.

Scissor-Hanz · July 24, 2018, 5:44am

Yes, Durban South Africa is a coastal city with altitude of around 8m. So one would assume a local landrace/heritage cultivar would be fluffy/airy so as to be very mold resistant.

Cobra50 · July 24, 2018, 6:21am

@Sebring & @Scissor-Hanz I love that I can find someone here that can answer anything about weed here.

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 4:00pm

Hey brothers and sisters, got some more pictures for ya.

As I said earlier in the week, I harvested my Durbans, 74, the bushy one and 75, the columnar. My thanks to both @Baudelaire nd @Jellypowered or providing me with the opportunity to grow these plants.

Here’s a photo of 75 on harvest day.

I was waiting on both Durban plants to develop amber trichomes before harvesting. I may have a color vision problem with the amber trikes because I saw a small number of them in my bi-weekly microscope checks. It seemed the field was filled with cloudy and clear, but only a few that looked amber to me. I am color blind in reds and greens and the amber trikes may have one or both colors as a component.

I think I waited too long harvest these plants. The microscope views looked better on day 72 and progressively worse in the days following. By that I mean, subsequent views showed less trichome heads in each microscope viewing.

It is interesting to note that branches I marked as being seeded, had the life on it dying. You can’t see the soft twist ties on them in this photo, but you can figure which they are by looking at the leaves on them.

Here is a photo of each of how each of the plants looked just before I cut them down.

When I harvested 74, she was 30.25" tall and weighed 326.0 grams (wet) after cutting down. 75 was 43.5" tall and weighed 314.5 grams (wet)

These plant were very easy to trim. They’re not real leafy like the plants I’ve grown previously.

There will be plenty of seeds. After curing, I’ll be posting a giveaway. At this time, shaking each plant fairly hard inside a garbage bag netted 15-20 seeds each plant so they need to dry more to remove them. I pollinated the Durbans as soon as I had pollen. The females barely had pubic hairs when I spread male cum all over their curlies. These beans are as mature as possible.

I’ll be interesting to see how long it takes for these to cure. With the thin buds, more air can come in contact with the flower, so I’m thinking it may be quicker than normal.

For my grow, I prefer the bushy plant. It was more heavily populated. I’d love to have all my plants be 30" tops, if they would yield like this one. As I mentioned in a nprevious post, I am moving toward getting my plants into Flowering earlier so I can keep the height down. This one held itself short, no training was necessary.

My next 2 plants (courtesy of @ReikoX , 90 and 91, are just the right size! Their heights have stabilized at 24.5" and 24.0" respectively. 91 looks a bit more dense, but I think both will yield nicely.

Speaking of LR x LD yields. 80 gave me 21.5 grams of smoking material after I removed about 1000 seeds. That’s just an eyeball count. When I clean out the remaining seeds, I’ll do a weigh count. I harvested her at 14.0" tall and full of seeds. I can’t wait until these finish. All muffin top! Should be 35-40 grams each. Not bad use of previously excess space in my Veg chamber.

It doesn’t smell as berry like as it did while growing, but it does have a pleasant scent to it, almost floral. It it a nice easy smoke. I’ve smoke 2 joints of it (smoking one now) and only coughed a few times, just a nice, mellow smoke, for a nicely mellow high. I feel very relaxed, but functional. I couldn’t have asked for more for my first diversion from my Purple and Blond. Kudos to @ReikoX for making these awesome little guys!

My next 2 photos are of (BC Mango x BC Night Nurse) x Diesel Moonshine green phenotype (via the generosities of both @Kalgrae and @Jellypowered). Thanks to brother @Gaz29 for noticing that I forgot to include the green phenotype in my previous posts.

These are 2 very healthy looking plants. These are the 2 seedlings whose little beaks were glued shut. 97 has looked totally normal for a while now, notice it the photo, how normal 96 looks as well. If you only looked straight down on it, you’d never see that it started its first hand layer with only one hand. Each layer after built more and more of a second hand. It is amazing how quickly a seedling corrects itself from a birth defect. Wouldn’t it be awesome if birth defect in human babies could correct itself in time. Say a baby born missing an arm. No one panics because the child will finish growing it by the time he is 2.

These youngsters are so healthy that 98 is taller than and has the same number of layers as 97.

I love seedlings when they get to this stage, the bigger they get, the bigger they can get, and it happens quickly. I feel like if I could relax enough to just watch one for an hour, I’d actually see it grow.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for 1 boy, 3 girls. Wouldn’t you?

My sole OG Kush has always looked kind of twisted up. I’m sure this will correct soon enough. @sebring sent me a message about these seeds likely to be herms. Good to know. I’m not passing up on OG Kush bud due to getting a herm. It can live in my Male Room. I’m almost as excited about smoking me some OG Kush as I am about my Sweet Tooth, which will be here first.

I put 6 of Cannabeizein’s Chuy Purps x Second Sight seeds (thanks to a giveaway from @pookie123 in to soak on 7/22/2018 at 11:00 PM. I used basically the same SeedSoak as with the OG Kush seeds, but I added a little nutrition into it this time.
5 parts water pH adjusted RO water
1 part 3% H2O2
Ful Power fulvic acid at rate of 35ml/gallon
SuperThrive at rate of .25ml/gal
CleanKelp kelp fertilizer at a rate of 1.25ml/gallon

I placed them into a 1oz container 2/3 full of my SeedSoak, set the container on the heat mat in my clone/seed box. I put an inverted plastic drinking cup over it to block the light I checked in on them about every 6-8 hours.

When I looked at them at the 36 hour mark I was disappointed to find all 6 still floating. I wasn’t panicking though, since my SeedSoak is one sixth H2O2 and all the seeds had unshakable oxygen bubbles attached all over them. I shook them a couple of times to see if any sunk. They’d go down to the bottom and float right back up. One had an odd look about it, unbalanced looking. When I put on my 5x magnifying visor I saw it was open and had a tiny nub where a tap root was going to be.

I decided it was in no danger of drowning with the bubbles all over it, and I had a dentist appointment so I put it back on the heat mat until about 4:00 PM. All still floated, but 4 had various length tap roots, 2 were not cracked at all. The two that remained unopened, I let dry back out for 20 hours before soaking them again.

I then put the germinating seeds on a paper towel moistened with my SeedSoak for another 6 hours. When I looked in on them, this is how they looked:

Now, at germination day 4, all four are visible above the coco.

104 is smaller than the other 3, but it is still visible in the center of the pot.

One last thing, I received 4 beans from a @deep_rob seed giveaway 2 days ago. They are The Black x Champagne, regular seeds, they are an indica dominant.

Checkout the tiny bottle they shipped in. It looks just large enough to hold a dozen seeds. I wasn’t expecting them because I never got contacted, so I thought I’d missed out. Imagine my surprise when they showed up. I had to look up in my messages to see who sent them. That’s the kind of surprise I love!

That’s all for now,
C50

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 4:30pm

Hey Gang, how are we all doing today?

My Durbans (from @Baudelaire’s FDM Seeds, through @Jellypowered) are curing. They are drying faster than solid bud plants dry. I turned off the heat in my curing locker to slow them down.

I’ve been smoking my LowRyder x LaDiva for a couple of days now. I love it! I feel it gets me more high than either my Purple or Blonde does most likely because I am so accustomed to them. The taste is similar to my Purple, but the Purple makes me cough more than the LR x LD.

I am very happy with it and anxious to see a seedless yield.

**Edit:**These 2 have stopped stretching. Good thing, I’d need to raise My SolSheet if they hadn’t. End of edit.

Thanks again @ReikoX, awesome little plant you made.

I re-arranged my Flowering room yesterday. I’d had 7 large plants in there, but I’ve harvested 4 of them this week. I am down to 2 small plants (ST4 clones), 1 Purple (the last one for a long while, I have too many other seeds to grow out before I get back to them) and the 2 female ST4. I left a single shelf under the lamp for the small plants coming up and most of the space under the lamp is floor. I’d had a 4’ x 3’ piece of 3/4" plywood under the lamp, so the large plants had to to be right at the very edge of the 42" umbrella reflector, Now all 3 are directly under the reflector, for now.

One of my (BC Mango x BC Night Nurse) x Diesel Moonshine (from @Kalgrae, through @Jellypowered), green phenotype, #97, has shown her sex at 41 days since germination. It is one of the older seedlings.

The primordial pistils are so tiny as to not be able to see them naked eye. Once I found them with the 5x MagniVisor, I was able to see them with a pair of 2.5x reading glasses. I’ll try to photograph them when they get large enough that won’t worry about damaging the plant to get a shot.

I put my 1 OG Kush (from @Sebring) into the Veg chamber 3 days ago.

The leaves were originally twisted somewhat. This photo is from yesterday. You can see it is smoothing out now. I won’t be doing anything other than growing her out. When I have some high indica, or pure indica, pollen, I’ll grow more and pollinate. Everything I’ve read on the subject indicates if a herm plant gets pollinated with pollen that is not a herm, it should eliminate the herm trait.

Cannabeizein’s Chuy Purps x Second Sight seeds (thanks to a giveaway by @pookie123). I have 4 that are doing very nicely.

When only 4 popped to start with, I let the non cracked seeds dry for 24 hours then soaked them for 20 hours. Still no joy. I let them dry for another 22 hours and soaked again. This time, a 5th one popped yesterday.

I buried it in coco this afternoon around 1:00 pm. I let the last seed dry for about 19 hours. The sixth one is back to soaking again.

My Sweet Tooth #4 plants that I bought from @Baudelaire’s FDM Seeds are doing great. I took these photos yesterday on Flowering day 36.

They have stopped stretching #82 is 40" tall, #83 is 41.75" tall. They are both very happy and healthy. Their buds look fantastic and they have approximately 3 weeks left in flowering

The top buds on my Purples looked like that 1 week later in Flowering. According to FDM Seeds, “Known for massive fist-sized buds thickly encrusted with trichomes,” I can expect them to get much larger yet.

I decided to remove the large leaves from #83. Since the stretch is done, I’d expect them to no longer be necessary and they were throwing shade on a ton of flowers below them. I left the leaves intact with #82 to see if there is noticeable difference at harvest day.

I made a joke about whether these are cannabis or palms a few weeks back. Here are 2 leaves from 83:

These are the largest leaves I’ve seen in person. The leaf stems are as thick as the stems of cuttings I take for cloning.

I hope you all enjoyed today’s installment of my grow show.
C50

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 4:43pm

Hello everyone.

Here is a photo of the ST4 plant I am reversing, #84.

It was taken in my new Male room. I used a 2’ x 4’ wire rack with only 2 shelves. The sides can be moved together and apart to accommodate more plants. This pic is the normal color for the 120W 3000K bulb (no flash used). I like this color much better for taking pics under than the HPS.

This is a closeup on the top bud. It shows my progress (or lack of) reversing.

This shot was taken using a flash so you can see more detail. Notice how it still looks like a female. Most of the pistils died back off, but the flowering still looks fem. I believe it is because:

I started a week into Flowering per the instructions I had.
I sprayed every 5 days per the instructions I had.
I didn’t stored it in the frig between uses, instructions said nothing about storage, just to use it up within 2 months
I used the entire plant instead of a branch or two.
I didn’t buy a large enough bottle to do an entire plant.
I sprayed it under three 15W LED spots, then put it back under the HPS. Instructions said nothing about photo sensitivity, only heat.
I sprayed at the start of the Flowering day.

It may be just too late in the Flowering cycle to accomplish reversing, but I am not giving up, its already only good for feeding a fire. To try to get there, I am now spraying every 3rd day. I spray just after the lamp goes off. I am covering the coco surface with news print to avoid feeding STS to the roots (apparently very bad for the roots). I spray mainly the buds and bud sites, until it drips off. I will probably cut off the cola because it is so dense, I can’t see males being able to develop there. The rest of the bud sights have much smaller female flowers and will likely be more welcoming to stamen.

There is necrotic tissue in all the leaves from the spray. I am glad I followed the consensus and diluted at 1:9. I’m afraid I’d have lost the plant by now (4 applications) if I hadn’t.

I am glad I started with a plant from a group of 3. Had I started with a single, difficult to pop bean, I’d be seriously mad at myself right now.

My recent experience and research has laid out a new plan.

I mixed my own stock solutions to use to make STS. I used the mathematically correct formula and made 100ml of silver nitrate and 400ml of sodium thiosulfate. I mixed these in light so low I needed to let my eyes get adjusted before I could get started. Both solutions have photo sensitivity, so the less light the better. I added 10ml silver nitrate solution slowly into 40ml of sodium thiosulfate stirring the whole time. I poured the STS mix into 450ml of distilled water in a 500ml brown glass spray bottle. I covered the bottle with a black sock and stored it in the frig until the next day.

The silver nitrate stock solution is stored in a black plastic bottle, the sodium thiosulfate stock solution is in a 500ml brown glass bottle and it is wearing the other black sock from the pair. The stock solutions are also stored in the frig now, as well as the 99% silver nitrate powder and the 99% sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate powder. The powders are stored in a small shipping box with desiccant.

I will be mixing the STS spray on the day of the first use. I’ll chose the plant I want to reverse as soon the primordia are visible to the unaided eye. Spray it and give it its first 12 hour night. I want to start it that early to keep the size to about 24-30". Also, since the plant is just starting to make flowers, the reversal will likely be accomplished the quickest this way. I’ll spray every 3rd day unless the plant starts to look sick.

Cobra50 · August 6, 2018, 3:33am

@Baudelaire, I had forgotten I left these questions unanswered.

When I said a week, I meant I covered the branch for about an hour, 2 times, a week apart. Too often my typing gets ahead of my thoughts. Kind of amazing, considering how slow I type.

The closest branches got a bit of pollination from hermed branch. Since I did this around day 12, when the pistils started growing in noticeable bunches. There was usually prolific growth going an each plant I did it with, so it likely happened from branches rubbing on each other when the oscillating fan cycled to the plant.

The few times I got male seed was early on. At that time, I had regular seed in my inventory, so it is entirely possible. Also, some memories get opaque from time to time. I do remember being convinced that they came from the herm process. Unfortunately, this happened at a time when my record keeping was spotty, so I can’t even look it up. I tried.

I don’t think so. That would’ve made me very curious and I think I would have remembered it.

Sorry to keep you hanging, but I get distracted too easily.

Cheers

Cobra50 · August 7, 2018, 12:52am

Hello OG brothers and sisters.

Happy news, the seeds @MadScientist sent me have finally arrived! The first part of the wait was worth it. @MadScientist got a lot of seeds from @Pedro_Bann to add to the give away. Originally, I was expecting 5 (I think) Pure Kush fem seeds. I got 3 of the Pure Kush fem seeds, 3 Chemdawg fem seeds and 13 of @Pedro_Bann’s favorite cross:
Whazzup’s Kronocaine x (Dinafem Big Kush x Sannie’s Herijuana).

They were stuck in USPS Inbound Customs prison for 5 weeks. I will be working them into my schedule here.

Thanks again, @MadScientist!

Cheers,
C50

Cobra50 · January 29, 2021, 7:29pm

Hello Overgrow.

I have a seed giveaway active at this link for the Durban seeds if anyone is interested:

I got an mailing from Strainly a few days before my check came. I usually delete this type of email, but I am very anxious lately because of 2 seed mailings that never reached me, despite the post office’s tracking saying one WAS delivered. When I get very anxious and have no other release for it, I spend money. In the early 90’s my (late, ex-) wife and I both did that. We had SO MUCH credit card debt!

Anxiety is the main reason I am not a big sativa fan. Yes, they give a nice clear head, but they up my anxiety level. The indica relaxes me which reduces my anxiousness.

Anyway, when I got to Strainly, I looked up indicas for giggles. They had a very nice selection. When I found one I liked, I decided to find out how they expected to get paid. Apparently many of them only accept PayPal. It seems that if you pay them as a gift to a friend, the only electronic record of it is you paying a friend $XX.00. I ordered 5 different types of seeds:

Rusty OG Kush F2 (5 reg seeds)
Tajikistani Hash Plant F3 (5 reg seeds)
Mazar-i-Shariff x Mazar-i-Shariff (5 reg seeds)
Chocolate Kush, (10 fem seeds)
Warrior Kush (Sweet Tooth x Afghani) (5 reg seeds, this is the only one of the 5 that isn’t 100% indica)

Fortunately for me, not everyone at Strainly is looking for top dollar for their beans. These were very reasonably priced, even with S&H. Now, if I can trust the USPS, the first 3 strains in the above list, which are coming from within the US and will be here tomorrow. The others are coming from Canada. I trust the USPS even less with international mail, Canada Post tracking has estimated to arrive Tuesday and Thursday.

I am going to have to squeeze one of those badasses in between gifted seed runs. I haven’t smoked 100% indica in about 15 years and am really looking forward to it.

My ST4s are the oldest plants still growing already. They are looking great on flower day 48.

The one I removed the bulk of leaves from, 83, has flowers on the next layer down from top where the a good portion of pistils have turned. This is the time I used to harvest Purples. Their pistils turn in the late mid to late 40 days Flowering as well. These plants have a very pleasant aroma. I can’t really name it, but I’d buy a plug in room deodorizer in bulk if it smelled the same.

I snagged a bud that was about 1" around a couple of days ago and left it sit out to dry. I don’t have the patience to let it finish and get cured, I am to anxious. Gotta try out as soon as it is dry.

Here is the reversal project, plant 84:

As you can see, I cut the top off of her, right after I removed the leaves causing shade. I was right about the dense female buds making it difficult to grow male genitalia. Look at the small buds closer to the central stalk. You’ll see a bunch of banana shaped pollen sacks. The leaves were causing so much shade, the male flowers were able to overcome female flowers in these locations. There are a small number of these bananas. Unless more come in, I’ll unlikely gather pollen from this plant. As an extra plant, this was an excellent learning experience. Had I waited so long (my instructions said to wait until it had been Flowering for a week) with one I was counting on, I’d be really angry with the results.

The female buds look as though they may contain seeds. It they do, I’ll certainly collect them.

I am planning on using 84 for make concentrate. Does anyone have a reason not too. The STS soaks into the plant matter. Does it effect the gooey goodness. I’ll see…

I had taken 2 lower branches from 84 before it went into Flowering. Those became the clones 94 & 95, that will be the next harvest after the original plant after 84.

I cut off the top 4.5" of each when they’d been Flowering for 9 days.

So, while I am on the subject of the Sweet Tooth #4, here is a photo of the rooted clones from 94 and 95, they are 107 and 108.

They have not only rooted (8 days

), they are just about back to Veg mode. The center top mass was pistils. Now, those pistils are starting to look like leaves.

I expect they will show some growth in the next week.

Edit added the paragraph an photos of plants 94 & 95.