Growing With Mr.Sparkle : 2023

Left hand side plants the res water went high pH wise and i did check or bother to cycle out and just refilled till i noticed issues a couple days later thus the scraggly new growth, and right side i stripped back the inner leaves just to condense and focus energy on the tips.

Considering just hooking up my pumps at this point at least for these.

Autos moving along, one a tri and another is lagging behind so those two will likely go in time but no need to do anything with them yet.

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Have you ever heard of the “swick” setup. It’s a subirrigated wicking system. The basic idea is a bed of perlite with fabric pots on top. Then fill the up the bed of perlite with your nutrient solution keeping about a one inch air gap.

One major downside is all that perlite would drastically reduce your resivoir volume.

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it would, plus my experience with the fabric pots is they would just root mass themselves into the perlite due to the humidity

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So photos, finally decided to say f-it and hooked up a pump and timer on the left side and pulled up the wicks this morning, watering frequency is currently set long, as in every 16 hrs which is about as long as i can set it with my timers, ideally would of started longer as this promix holds onto more water, but the change over may stave off some of the water saturation issues that could happen.

Autos doing their thing, just hand watering for now.

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I love how you clearly know what the F you’re doing and yet are continuously tinkering and learning. Major props.

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there are many failures when working towards something new or different that what you know :wink: , just part of it and accepting that and enjoying the process makes it easy to tinker and learn.

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So photos back left is a confirmed female, and left side recovering from their pH issue, that front one may just get the boot if it still lags, also turned down the duration time for watering on that left wise just cause promix holds onto so much water even with 30%+ added perlite, and me not being able to push out the watering frequency any longer apart from turning it on and off.

Autos and reveging photo doing well, the front two left plants are utilizing their wicks just to see but im suspecting it may be a detriment at the start as having dry cycles allows for root exploration and expansion, so may raise the wicks later if i think its causing issues or is a detriment.

Also because of me starting up that new led light thread, it made me antzy and instead of buying some new light to me just to play with, i took my spare F90 strips and put them on some new scrap metal panels and mounted them up removing my old Bridgelux EB2 panels that ive now had for almost 4 yrs come september, also made the realization that when i was running some of these f90s before on these xlg-100’s i had them wired in an ineffective way causing me to limit their output to about 85-90w max draw, where as now with these they aren’t limited and can max out the driver. Simple 3P2S array wiring mistake when they should of been 2P3S to pair better with this driver, dont know how i made that mistake in the first place, but anyways.

Yeah swapped in some f90 panels and will retire the EB2 panels permanently, which ill scrap as they have done their job, or unless someone has some drivers kicking around and likely would have to re wire them for their needs and wants to pay for shipping they can have them, But likely will just recycle them as its the easy thing.

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Photos doing their thing, would like to replace that front plant with either the reveging plant in the other chamber or a clone from it, but timing isn’t quite there for clones, and i should consider maybe looking at the roots on the right hand plants and maybe throwing them into the wicking bins, as they are just slow going with this media and method.

Autos on the other hand that are in the new coco and perlite seem to be loving it, front plants being a bit younger and slower than the others.

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So took a look at the roots on the Right hand photos… bottom third of the pot volume fell off when pulling it out with no roots in it, top third also no roots and what was left was very sparse in roots.

The promix is just staying way to wet, so one last change before im done with the promix and potting mix for wick systems, i re-potted them into bigger bins with single half sized wicks, and the promix used had a higher perlite ratio, so going to monitor but if i still think its staying to wet, out they go.

Now im not saying promix cant and doesn’t work its just in this application it doesn’t, if one was hand watering and also in bigger containers and with likely fabric pots i can see how some could maintain a less saturated mix or at least they can allow it to dry out before watering again, this though yeah big no go.

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Doing growers a service here, thanks for showing what you do, it’s very cool :sunglasses:

Mr sparkles scrubbing bubbles, i thought that clip was was funny, lol. They do the work so you don’t have tooooo

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@Mr.Sparkle take a look at the autopot aquavalve with the aquavalve cover. It’s gravity fed and the valve only lifts when the plant uses the water/food up. No fucking about with wicks, pumps and timers.

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I know about autopots, but consider their Small pots volume is 10x my large pots unles i short changed them and also would take up more than 1/3rd of my available height, say their 2 pot system will maybe just fit width wise but i have no where to put the water reservoir apart from elevated which would likely cause too much pressure

Wicks or not issues would still remain, also auto pots recommend a 50/50mix of perlite to say pro mix, and im currently in that 30-40% range with HP.

My coco/perlite mixed plants on the other hand are doing well so we will see how those go.

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They do a cover that holds the valve in position now. It fills ANY tray to the required level.
I’ve bought 2 of the covers for a 18 plant sog I’ve got planned next.

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I can respect that. I can state they work without hydroton though. It’s a similar system your looking for so I figured I’d recommend what I use. :+1:

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you’re basically where I am at with my µOctos…I kinda want to see how long you insist on wicks.

:smile_cat:

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So the binned plants the promix in it is damp but not sopping wet so we will see how this goes, need to address the pump watered plants though and make them go through some dry cycles, also as you can see flopped the tops.

Autos are doing well, going to have to give them more space shortly by running the other cabinet.

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Day 15

So couple changes, all the promix hp pots were tossed for the water log issues and time related the binned plants were throwing out new roots though as they were running drier, now wasn’t expecting to but kept two of the plants which i aggressively chopped back their roots and foliage to bare minimum and transplanted them into the left over coco perlite mix i had, if they bounce back on a restart great otherwise to me in not at a loss. Also took some cuttings off the reveg plant and just half assing those with them sitting in water and bagged up at the moment humidity wise, i’ll make up a coco pot for them later.

The autos though are doing well, moved things around a little with the right side cab good to go and the left side cab having the two double grapes that were started a bit later, left side cab also had the one confirmed male moved to it and currently im just letting it dry out before i toss it. Also have the odd one leafed auto in this side that been growing out of its thing, popped as a tri but first set of real leaves the one side grew fine yet the other two on the other side were merged as one which usually with tri’s you see that tri pattern continue through the plants life, this though is doing the standard double pattern just a bit lop sided as it trying to figure itself out.

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Day 17

Right hand cab, the left side plant apart from being different than the right side started going slightly yellow on the lowers and dark green centers on the new leaves the cause im guessing is the res went dry and i left them for a bit so what i figure is happening is as they get down to the very end the leftovers i the res the pH typically is up in the 6.3-6.4 range and as the medium drys back its creating a high EC situation in the root zone as well, so high pH and EC as it drys back.

So gave those a top water with enough fresh feed water to cause some run off to bring things down and set them over a cleaned and partially refilled res, gave the same treatment to the left hand side plant in the left cab which were right down to the last little bit in the res just not dry yet.

Plan going forward is to do the cycle over when refilling reservoirs especially if they get to a dry state, otherwise maybe every 2nd fill or week to 10days or so.

Also removed the one male plant on the right side with the cut back repotted photos rebounding back especially the Guava99 Orange Goji

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Day 19

plants moving along, nothing much to say oh don’t think i mentioned by about a week or two back i dropped my light levels down and adjusted them slightly since to about 20w/sqft, forget the lux value but was seeing some detriment on top leaves with them drooping and being slightly yellow so toned it back and they greened up and went perky again, will increase the light levels once a canopy forms and there more into flower.

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Day 21

The small cut back photos went a little dry, and other reservoirs were low to pretty much empty so i refilled them, the right hand cab having some high pH feed water in the res which i just condensed to one res and ph corrected and used what i had left of filling the other reservoirs to partially fill one on the right side.

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