I think this whole thread can be boiled down to one paragraph:
"everyone was a newb once. not all of us begged for seeds.. we were just happy to be part of a community that cares about growing and helping others. however, the recent influx of newer members into the site has caused some issues with seed and supply begging. my thoughts on the subject are these:
that's it. like i said in discord and will relay here.
imagine that you and a buddy are hanging out and smoking or fishing.. what have you.. well you get hungry and say "hey dude/chick, let's go acquire sustenance from the local franchised eatery."
so you drive down to Mackers (HAIL AUSTRALIA!! @Pedro_Bann) and you wait in line.. it's lunch time so there are a few other people about.. you get to the front and you make your order.. you know your friend in life is a little short so you offer to buy them something..
"what do you want?" You say, "don't worry about the cash, I'll pay."
then... upon hearing that every person i. line behind you hounds you to pay for theirs as well..
"please?" they plead. "I haven't eaten at McDonald's on years and I want to try it out. I'm broke but I'm on line waiting on some generous person to give me a meal and have no problems asking everyone with an extra Nickle to give it to me."
this isnt about active members now, I don't think @MadScientist and I was unaware even that you were a mooch! never would be sent you those spores just playing friend!
but more this is an issue of common sense.. someone says to another person through their own or someone else's thread "oh I have seeds or cuts of this strain you're looking for, pm me." that is what it is man.. es lo si que es...
between those two people though.. that is the trade or the forward pay to a member, it isnt an open invite for every 0 to 5 Pip nobodies with no avatar or even a post that ISN'T begging to hound dog for seeds from people they dont know..
bottom line though is pretty much
If you weren't offered something directly or in a giveaway or legitimate trade with another member, DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING BUT ADVICE