HLVd and other viruses goodies

Oh man that sounds fuct up, sorry you had that happen.
At least hlv you can see it starting when you start the flower stretch from the one time it happens Ed to me. Think I might be able to pic out a dud if I saw one in early flower now.

But the looks healthy one night and next night it’s half dead…that’s really scary🤯

My fault really, was in the midst of a major depression spell and just let my housekeeping go to shit. Gotta remind myself dirtiness = disease.

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Also since getting caught back up on housework I’ve found my cat Mao’s rash has disappeared, guess she just doesn’t like a messy house.

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I am flowering an AK48 plant right now and the bud structure is a little weird. I wrote it off as just the genetics at first. The buds are very hairy even late and the buds aren’t really fattening up. The trichomes seem to be huge and sparse. I have been seeing lots of stuff on HLV so of course it’s in my mind and I might be seeing things that aren’t there. But one of the videos showed very swollen areas around the branches and said that was a sign of HLV. I am guessing this can also be cause by other things but I am not sure what. My AK48 does have some swollen knuckles where the branches meet the trunk. Love to hear some thoughts. The other HLV threads I could find were years old.

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Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure is to test. You could treat it like it has HpLVd to prevent it from spreading to other plants.

Sanitize all tools with 10% bleach solution for 60 seconds. Use a new set of gloves, or sanitize with bleach between plants. Sanitize pots and trays between rounds. Don’t share runoff between plants.

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Sage advice @ReikoX :facepunch:t2:

Your mention of swollen branches at nodes is the first time I’ve ever heard of that being a symptom of hlvd. Swelled joints is usually considered a healthy sign because it means your plant is bulking up to support large buds. I believe SlowNickel calls those “calcium shelves” because he believes they mean good health too. Link to the video you watched that got stuck in your head?

I’d guess it’s more your specific plant needs a lot longer or it’s reacting to some other stimulus. How far into flower is your AK48? What are your lights like? What are you feeding?

But like @ReikoX said, if you treat this plant like it’s infected you at least wouldn’t spread to other plants if you tested and it turned out to be infected. But that’s far into flower is probably too late to get tested since there’s good odds that any trichomes on a sample contain more THC than is allowable to consider it as hemp.

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I watched many many videos on it. But looking through my youtube history I found this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRzb2_y2Sps

Thanks for the advice. I suppose I should get rid of it’s clones as well. I gave some out unfortunately.

Its been about 58 days (8.2 weeks) since I flipped. I am not expecting it to be ready in two weeks or anything but it does seem to be lagging in the bulking department. Probably all normal and just got this HLV in my head. Seems like every podcast or subreddit has some mention of it recently. I do see articles about it from years ago saying its “ravaging indoor grows across canada and USA” but I am just now hearing about it regularly so I guess it’s not as rampant as the articles/videos/posts suggest.

Flowering light on AK48 is a Viparspectra 400W Pro Series P4000 LED. Feeding Gia Green dry amendments, all purpose in veg and power bloom in flower. Also got worm castings when top dressed.

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Like stated above testing is the only way to be sure. And if you suspect at all you should treat it like it has it. It’s very easy to spread and does some serious damage to your plants.

Not every plant that has hlv duds some will dud while others will produce pretty much normally. I had 1 marshmallow og dud while the 1right beside it overtook the space the dudded plant was going to use and ended up with my biggest yield from a 2 gallon container, almost 4 Oz from 2 gal of living soil. But the dudded plant went to the trash bin😔

I don’t personally see signs of dudding but different plants react differently to hlv.
I had hlv and it wiped out my garden. I had 2 strains that some plants dudded hard(marshmallow og pre 64 Runtz) and 1 that didn’t dud at all(apple fritter) and 1 that some were a little affected I’d say very minor dudding (sfv og)

When a plant is dudding hard you will notice the whack growing of its branches here’s a pick of marshmallow og dudded out with the branches all sideways. Beside it you can just see a part of the mmog right beside it that didn’t dud standing normal with regular buds that are hard and frosty. And a bud shot of mmog dudded vs normal bud


And here’s shots of runtz same thing

Maybe those pics will give you a good idea of what dudding looks like
I also don’t see any signs of dudding in your pics

Well man I hope you don’t have it.:v:

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Could be the difference between correlation and causation. Just because a plant has swollen nodes and is hlvd positive doesn’t mean swollen nodes is a symptom of hlvd. There could well be a secondary infection or something else entirely going on with this plant. The plant behind it has swollen nodes too. Is that one also mentioned to be infected? I’d say it’s possible due to sharing a bed…but they’re still the first I’ve seen saying swollen nodes are a symptom of hlvd. Anyone please correct me if I’m wrong and missing some newer evidence. But my guess is they’ve been listening to SlowNickel and upping the calcium levels they’re providing to their plants.

But even still, your node knuckles are a fraction of what’s shown in the KIS video you linked and IMO nothing to worry about.

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test it and find out for sure:
https://tumigenomics.com/hop-latent-viroid-information

It seems best practice is to get a few samples from different parts of the plant. Viroid levels concentrate in certain parts of the plant, dependant on vascular circulation to spread it through the plant tissue.

If you’re worried it may have spread, test a plant in close proximity or a plant in the same tent that you think is clean.

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I’m pretty sure any older grower can confirm or deny the knuckling link… as in they had those waaaaay before HLVd showed up. :man_shrugging:

:evergreen_tree:

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“Swollen joints” is always something I’ve taken as a good sign. Mostly see it on very sturdy, productive plants.

Just looks a little woody. Some plant have weird wood patterns

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Calcium shelves? I would not listen to anything an Instagram clown says. When a plant shoves excess calcium out of its system, it’s trying to remove it from the system. This is unmetabolized calcium.

Corky rusty nodes, leaf claw, dead tips, viroids…

If only they would make books other than comic books into movies. We could stop the Instagram science.

Learn the calcium-boron relation. Calcium is a metal. Cannabis is a hyperaccumulator of metals. Ammo manufacturers might as well take the primer out of their bullets and pack nitrocellulose in its place, with this thinking.

I remember when Cannabis was for elevating the mind. Then all the breeders and fertilizer companies narrowed the gene pool to calcium tolerant indica brainlock crap. Now weed is for people who want to live like terminal cancer patients. I wouldn’t listen to anyone who smokes cancer patient weed, and wants to ruin all the ‘sativa’ genetics with social media q anon science.

I don’t smoke Cannabis and don’t even grow it now that all my cancer patients are dead. The stoner stereotypes are true when it comes to ‘indica’. And these calcium obsessed indica smokers want to drag all the narrow leaf weed down to their level of laziness and inability to think. At least you’ll be comfortable laying in bed all day not using your brain, waiting to die, once all the Sativa has been sifted out due to Calcium intolerance.

I’m done trying to troll the community into growing up. I’m just gonna sell my Skunk genetics to Monsanto and publish a bunch of books calling out all the pesticide spraying murderous backstabbing thieving fake hippies in tiedie who claimed they could cure cancer with 90 dollar grams of eagle20 RSO.

I’ve only seen viroid symptoms once. When I was stupid enough to take advice from indica smoking Instagram weed celebs. Most of your bedridden (oh excuse me couch lock) indica shit has virus symptoms once the flat bill tiedie Cali experts got ahold of it. It’s like herpes, no one really cares as long as you ain’t got rusty bumps on your stem, right?

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Somehow I doubt this :joy:

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Is this the boron king I’ve read so much about?

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It is. Banned - again.

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:arrow_up: what was that all about :man_facepalming::flushed:

He really pissed the mods off this time the flavor text of the ban was very spicy in all red letters.

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Suppose we listen to a forum troll instead…how does that make us more intelligent?

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