HLVd and other viruses goodies

You could become fluent in troll-ese.

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I prefer to play dumb when it comes to trolls. Tends to wind them up tighter so they spin off into the sunset like a top when you finally pull that string.

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Here’s a question about hops latent viroid. Does sterilizing soil kill the virus ? Like baking in oven ?

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True but this guy pulls his own strings.

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First there’s no actual data I’ve seen on the soil itself as being a vector for transmission. It’s more shared water/runoff and root-to-root contact that’s been noted as a vector. If you remove the entire root ball from an infected plant (plus some soil for good measure) you’re probably ok. But that’s me spitballing.

With regard to heat treatments (specifically for tools though baking soil may provide similar results), Tumi includes it as an ineffective method of sterilization. However, the studies cited don’t directly mention HLVd as they were done in the 60s-70s and were targeting other viroids.

Note: it’s viroid not virus There is a difference. A viroid is basically naked RNA vs a virus that has a protective coating. Check out the Tumi Genomics website. They have a lot of good info that they’ve translated into relatively plain English for the layperson.

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I would say no.
Toss the soil start fresh
I think if it’s in your roots it’s in the soil as well.

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From what I heard on some podcasts with Dr tassa she said heat was not effective. You need to use bleach to kill the viriod. She Said heat/flame weren’t 100% effective.

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I heard talk of this on a grow shop in UK in the last ten days.
Didn’t ask if it was here all ready, as tend to keep quiet :shushing_face: in such places.

The people talking seemed a bit concerned.

I used to hold a match to a scalpel blade before cuttings were taken, but seems a match may not get hot enough between plants.

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Believe this horse shit. I have ocean front property in Utah to sell you.

Yeah, viroids are just free RNA molecules so they’re resistant to high levels of heat, uv, and ionizing radiation. A butane torch will not “kill” or deactivate a viroid.

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Til today, I have not heard of a ‘Viroid’ being different to a virus…In my ignorance assumed them to be ‘Smaller’ …Seems they are really tricky to kill-
If seed is being shipped around the World {Which it is} this viroid really could be a threat.

Dutch Elm Disease changed the UK landscape massively in my lifetime, that was a fungus and beetle imported from USA in infected timber.

Ash Dieback is also affecting forests here.

Quarantine of plants won’t happen in ‘Illegal’ states/countries.

Aus /NZ is red hot on bio security - don’t blame them.

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Exactly. They use that messed up PCR test garbage and this probably comes down to poor growers messing up . I see some messed up leaves but the plants respond to better conditions and the leaves stop growing bad. There is a lot going on here in this thread for sure. Don’t panic is the number 1 thing

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Yeah, dude, I’m interested in any old-school knowledge that I can get my hands on. You should tone it down so you stop getting banned on all of the forums. I understand your frustration with the new-school capitalist weed scheme, but you can pass on your knowledge without the insanity. DM me when you get those books out or any other info. I see you’re banned here, so this post is just in case you’re lurking.

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Yeah that
Is PCR test really relevant to test virus or viroid presence ??
I wouldnt give limitess confidence in DHN for testing dudded sample as they, as I understand, kind of pioneer in “hplvd” theory to explain dudding. I think they made some money on it also
Still doubting about hplvd being the culprit of dudding, compoltism ??
Also I though the inventor of PCR announced that PCR was not reliable to test viruses/viroids.

ps: I dont think the eath is flat

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