Hi all, How long do you wait before planting fresh seeds?
I harvested some seeds 10 days ago and am itching to plant them. i normally wait a few weeks then put them in the refrigerator for while first. do you think a week of drying and fridge time will really matter?
thanks.
Give it a whirl
see what happens
got em soaking overtime. we’ll see how it goes.
Hi matey. You can plant them as soon as you harvest them. I’ve harvested plants when it’s been raining for a week and the seeds on the plants have sprouted in the rain and have 1 inch roots on them.
I have had volunteers from a pollinated plant start popping out of the ground right beside momma
Should be good to immediately plant, i wouldnt worry about soak unless just a brief soak to rinse of potential baddies
Just test a few and see how it goes, but do make sure you dry them before storing them. I made the mistake when I was younger of making seeds and putting them in a ziplock baggie, only to come back to a bag of mold.
Hmmm, good question @SunBaked,
I haven’t seen any science on that subject, but let’s consider the natural cycle for your plants:
Late Summer: days grow shorter and pollinated female plants are making seeds.
Autumn: seeds ripen and fall on the dry ground as Fall hardens into winter.
Winter: seeds experience dry cold for months as the season progresses.
Spring: the earth warms, the days lengthen, springtime rains soak the fields, and the seeds of Autumn germinate.
Nowhere in that scenario do seeds drop off the plant and start growing immediately.
Just sayin,
-Grouchy
PS, I dry them for a month minimum before test germination.
Try a sativa 14+ weeks. You, too, can see for yourself
How do you know when to harvest seeds? Is it pretty obvious, do you wait until the plant begins to die?
Yes Grouchy, you are right, that is what happens in nature. No offence, but we’re not talking about that. I’ve germinated seeds immediately after taking them from the plant. Sometimes they germ, and sometimes they don’t, but seeds don’t need an over winter or an extended dry in order to use
You can harvest seeds when they darken, and get hard. On average it takes 6-8 weeks from pollination. If you’re not sure, pull a few out and check them
People like to wait a two weeks before germinating new. Some will store them in the fridge/freezer before being planted. I don’t recommend freezing seeds unless for longgg term because seeds can only handle being frozen and thawed out a couple times. I have planted fresh seeds without issue. Personally i like to let the plant go till seeds are starting to fall out then harvest
I have germinated them right out of the flower after a 2 week dry and they popped within 24 hours.
When they start getting pushed out of the flower is so beautiful.
The whole seed drying debate is really a good dividing issue (for who actually chucks). Seeds for cannabis in general are going to be a-okay to plant immediately following harvesting them, and this is logical. A seed run is prolonged and then the dry session is typically extended substantially. By the time you are popping beans out, do you do anything else before packing them? Nope. They’re good to go.
Arguably, there would be some stuff in the genome that could require manual scaring or some type of outer layer chemical removal, both of which would only be seen in a subset of the seed population from the prior years in the soil in a natural setting. So, not discounting it wholly. Just saying, the only seeds that even pop close in speed to my fresh seeds are CSI Humboldts and his stuff is typically fresh in the first place. lol
When i germinate i treat seeds all the same. I soak in diluted peroxide for a day. I usually have seed developing a tail after a few hours and planted. Whatever doesn’t start developing a tail goes into paper towel after. I check daily and plant those that are developing a tail.I have never bothered scoring seeds and have germinated many of seeds a decade or longer without issue. My friend got dud seeds and they told him because they had to be scored being a douche to him.
We crossed LoJack to Pura Vida. We dried the plant as normal. Before going into curing stage, we removed 90% of the seeds. We let the harvested seeds dry for a week. We then planted 20 seeds. 19/20 germinated.
The dry stage is 12 days + 7 days drying the seeds = 19 days drying. The ONLY reason we didn’t immediately harvest the seeds is due to dusting lowers. So there was viable flower on the plant.
Germination 24-32 hours all seeds germinated
I very often have had seeds drop from the mom into the soil and start on their own or started them while Mom was still very much alive. I try to dry them for a week before sharing them, but personally I don’t see any need to dry them before using them. They pop just fine right off the Mom.
It’s always so cool to see volunteers do their own germ test for you, that’s one of my favorite parts of seed runs
@SunBaked , here’s my Jamaican lamb bread at 15 weeks, the mama still has 5 weeks left yet the little seedling in the dirt says otherwise. The seedling must have fallen out right from the plant to the dirt and began growing.
This is a decent (non-cannabis) article that explains the factors that can influence how soon a fresh seed can germinate. You can also search up particularly abscisic acid or ABA in seed and get some good info on why we age out beans.
I think there’s a lot of factors that determine how long a seed should age to achieve max germination potential.
In the tropics the environment is fairly consistent year round so a seed can be thin shelled and ready to go with little chance of encountering a killing situation.
The temperate zoned plants have to take measures to insure a seed doesn’t germinate after a late fall/early winter warm/wet period only to be killed by the on coming winter.
And i think there in lay the discrepancies we see reported on fresh seed starts. In my experience, Afghani/broadleaf seed need to age longer then tropical/thinleaf seed, which will pop right away.
