the one i smoke tested was very OG, did you find all of 'em on the OG side? or just a few or not OG at all?
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OR i could do like the elite clones happen, run only my keeper females, hope to get a few seeds from herm cross pollination
i’m thinking forbidden fruit herms on lime 1 jaro making a orange root beer flavor OG that’s purple with better structure (lime 1 jaro has spaghetti for legs)
this girl smells insane
anyways my mind is blown with all the cross possibilities i could make, i’m going to make a classic breeder instagram page, buy some followers, share pictures that aren’t mine and start selling untested seeds that aren’t what i say they are 
so if you ever see me selling seeds you can quote this lol
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That’s awesome about the guerilla fumes I keep hearing that same thing about the taste and potency. Can hardly wait to harvest mine in Autumn.
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Dude! I’d never be able to make up my mind lol
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Just make sure it’s 200+a pack too and your golden 
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hahahaha
duh! haha
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The friends bro… not the plants! 
1.5 year run… I was ready to try another cross.
I really don’t have the experience to differentiate bro, I just know I enjoyed the hell out of it.
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ohhhhh yeah, hahah
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Been trying to clone that damn thing for nearly 4 months now… there are still cuttings alive, and they still aren’t rooted. You’re welcome to try it yourself, if you want to take them. 
I’d say it was pretty firmly a chem leaner, btw. Mild, but definite chemical cleaner-y smell and taste on the exhale… though I guess I don’t know what Silverback OG is like, now that I think about it. It’s not the typical earthy Kush, because it’s not a Kush at all, just a Hawaiian sativa that Lucky decided to call OG, right? But yeah, what I got most strongly from it is chem.
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^^^lol… nope, not after the experience you had. I’d just start from seed!
So what did we learn from this? Don’t take cuts from a transitioning Fume?
Did I mention #8 still exists? Iv been in touch… :tightpants:
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mine rooted ok, and they definitely take off once you put the rooted cuts in the dirt, i hate slow rooters, i’d imagine there’s og in there from the early flavor samples, like a piney og, but i don’t know what silverback og is, could be anything! and maybe i don’t know what “chem” is, i’ve only had one chem D hybrid before, i know that’s not what the fume’ is about, but i’ll find out soon enough 
but that chem D cross was pure fire
like revegging? that’s what i did and it worked but not my preferred method… AT ALL! i’m never revegging plants lesson learned
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@Cormoran you remember what I said when I cut them? I’m guessing 10 days from switch?
Yeah, revegging is a mess at times. In my opinion it makes it harder to support weight, weak branching.
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I’m assuming it’s a chem leaner because it smelled like chemical cleaners, and had a bit of the same taste on exhale… I’ve never had chem myself either. 
It’s not like the OG I’ve had before, certainly. Of course, everything I’d tried was black market until a few years ago, and I’ve never had OG from a dispensary, and there are about 47,000 different cuts that people have called OG over the years, so who the hell knows?
Sounds about right, if you mean #8… you gave me 2 cuts of that, one rooted after ~3 weeks and revegged after about 2 months while the other died. The Fume you gave me were full plants you were going to cull otherwise because they were 1.5 feet tall in solo cups, so I vegged them out and took cuttings before putting them into flower. Like, 15 cuttings or so… put 5 in the cloner, the rest in the fridge, and proceeded to try and root them. Everything’s failed. It’s reasonably likely they were unhealthy when I took the cuts though, I recently realized I had to start supplementing with epsom salt because my old food was no longer doing the trick under new LEDs.
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i was gonna say maybe thats why they didn’t root! definetly try to have your plants growing inches a day, of the greenest most vigorous shit before taking cuttings, even if that’s now always reality… trying to save a sick plant by cloning it isnt the thing to do, leason learned
that’s what i’m realizing too, tell me everything you know about epsom salt and why it’s needed with LEDs 
i shared a picture of a hungry plant, someone said epsom salt, so i ordered some from buildasoil, but havnt looked into it at all yet, thanks!
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I’m still figuring it out myself, and it seems like this’ll vary by strain (at least the Romulans in my veg tent seem mildly unhappy with it, gonna adjust up next feeding) but I’ve been adding 1/2 tsp of epsom per gallon to the water, and mixing 1 tsp of epsom per gallon into my weekly kelp foliar. They’re much happier with it, though as I said still not perfect. I might end up ordering some calcium hydroxide, adding vinegar and lemon juice, and mixing that with the epsom for a homemade organic cal-mag if it turns out they’re calcium deficient too… again, seems to be more strain-dependent, but they’re all wanting more than my usual fertilizers gave for sure.
Btw, I haven’t actually checked the prices on Build-a-Soil, but I really doubt they have the best prices on epsom. It’s like $1.50 a pound at the drugstore for a small bag, and you don’t need much. The first time someone advised me to add epsom to my water, they told me 2 tbsp per gallon and my plants ended up stunted for months, so less is more. 
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oh ok so epsom salt is the magnesium, i didn’t know that, calcium would be from something else like calcium hydroxide, and i’m guessing the lemon juice is to lower the ph? looks like you are growing organic, different method than me because i don’t foliar or feed anything in my water, it’s ok to water with epsom directly in the soil? i just know too much salt is bad, and that epsom salt thing… sounds salty
i had a $100 off coupon so i… “got it for free” haha, 2 tbsp per gallon of anything sounds way too strong! thanks for answering my questions and i should probably look this up instead of asking questions that’s been answered about 1000 times on here already
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Epsom is magnesium sulfate, so it’s magnesium and sulfur. Calcium hydroxide would be for the calcium, yep, and the lemon juice/vinegar are to dissolve the calcium hydroxide; it’s not water-soluble, but will dissolve easily in acid (citric/acetic acid in this case, malic is another commonly-used one for plants). Watering with epsom is just fine, it’s not actual salt but a mineral-salt compound - if you’re in coco you have to worry about flushing out mineral salts to free cations for calcium or somesuch, but that’s only for coco as far as I know. In soil, real salt (sodium chloride) is bad and tends to build up if you use marine inputs a lot; at some point I guess I’ll have to start getting soil tests and figure that out, I think I’ve read that gypsum can correct sodium imbalance but can’t entirely remember. At some point maybe I’ll bug Reiko about it, but not right now. 
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like any impatient/genius grower i’m sundrying some fluff today
some drying pics, it’s pretty much right on 55-60% 60-65f almost perfect, i bought a commercial window AC unit on ebay for $800 7 years ago and it’s still rocking, i recommend frigidair window units!
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i realize the plants look dry AF above, they are not, they are almost completely wet still, i didn’t rush the dry i promise you guys! haha
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Dude, those pics are fucking awesome. Buds look killer from here man. Hats off to you for real
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