Cool thread makes me miss my old 17week haze line 
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Well im working on some long flowers this season 
your more than welcome to stick around my friend
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In the same way that you can still find wild rice, wild onions and wild strawberry ect I can find wild cannabis ( Jungli ) in many places in the Indian subcontinent.
You can make out that these plants have never been cultivated and have been growing wild for centuries.
It is the same story with rice which was domesticated about 10,000 yrs ago … the original grass it was developed from can still be found and also lot of conflicting opinions and theories.
To me a landrace rice strain is what has been indigenously growing on that land and a cultivar is which has been selectively bred for certain outcomes and heirloom is a particular cultivar which is being continuously farmed by a certain group of peoples 
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But jungli type plants are escapees from drug type production in the more advanced/ganja growing bits of India they kill any surrounding there ganja fields where as other parts don’t as there more focused on hash or not making sensi so individual plant potency is less of a issue from there point of view they ain’t lazy either it also just means there plants will be more hardy Vs more potent as always there is a trade off
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Not all of them true wild can still be found especially in high humidity areas where the pollen cant travel far
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Indian farmers prefer seeded because more weight is more money.
Jungli plants are the ones which come on their own and can be found growing in places humans never have reason to go.
If you are of the opinion that true landraces don’t exist I can respect that.
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I wanna be wrong but I’m just naturally skeptical that full on truly wild cannabis still exists is all bud
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Wild , man collects from brings close to home and naturalized = landrace , man selects from brings to backyard and grows every season selecting his favorite = indigenous heirloom then further working and isolateing even back crossing =heirloom , further working = ibl ps many true landraces exists but truly wild are hard to find but still exists
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Nothing like long flowering greatness sitting in the back of tent for few rounds lol
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just going to stir the pot on this topic with some modern scientific literature. according to my current genetic research and understanding, old material stored in genebanks is how we classify basal cannabis that originated from the tibetan plateau near Qinquai Lake. now consider a common shared ancestry in this basal generation that divergently evolved and later was distributed globally through a series of selective domestication event beginning approx 12,000 B.P. around the neolithic period. If no current true basal cannabis exsists the closest ancestor would likely be found from identification of gene markers from these first wave domestication events or in feral population close to the basal type origin. Possibly a less dualistic representation of the question would be from what domestication event does the genetic material come from and what type of traits were selected to express. a look at the previous history of cultural practices to the area or morphology would likely suggest its intended use by showing repeating genetic markers that fall into the DOMESTICATION TYPE (i.e. culivar, feral, landrace) and PHYLOGENIC CLUSTERS as shown in the 4 types of groups: basal, hemp type, drug type feral and drug type. lets do a thought experiment shall we, say no true basal type cannabis currently “exists”, but if these primordial genes were still present in these 4 phylogenic clusters from the oldest domestication event breeding a true basal type cannabis may theoretically be possible. using previous basal genebank samples as a map to selecting and isolating these primordial genetic regions and using crisper cas-9 and marker assisted breeding to make a reverse biologically engineered “artificial” true type basal cannabis expression prior to human influence and environmental epigenetic changes. Another thing to consider is that the tibetan plateau is home to mt. kailash where shiva is said to reside which provides water to the 4 major rivers to the north, east, south and west. if basal cannabis exsisted in this region if would be more difficult to target and identify a singular basal ancestor considering the epigenetic change due to a rapid natural environmental distribution depending on where the seed come to rest after monsoon season. also looks like cannabis had 2.8billion years before human interaction to evolve so where this original basal cannabis naturally spread and distributed itself in natural migration events involving genetic drift could be a diverse set of data. This theory might suggest that what may have evolved as the foundational 4 domestication types was instead nature selection at first and what geneticists call early domestication would be more likely from pre ag cultures trading in these 4 area or hybridizing different epigenetically evolved variants of these basal genes from these 4 isolated diverse regions, at least until more advanced ag practices were available to further select for reinforcing desired traits to the choosen domestication type. Just some analytical ramblings and though experiments on the current data. here’s one of the articles that i’m referencing from if you want to read more into the details of these genetic classifications, found it very informative. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abg2286 
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i dont have tents , i have a grow shed and a glorious outdoor space
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@rigdzin Sounds pretty speculative to me but who am i to judge … i got this for you to consider , the great land bridge in the last ice age, posted by @DragonflyCoyoteSmoke , sorry bro i stole it 
i figured it needed said again , thanks
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Thats a cool story about Japan and the land bridge, hadn’t heard that one thanks for sharing. Again let me reiterate my area of study is soil biology so my understanding of genetic recombination is fundamental at best and very much open for constructive criticism. Just attempting to create a dialogue that addresses questions with critical reasoning and scientific principles. However, isn’t it all very much speculation until you sequence the DNA and blast into a phylogenetic databases to compare the unique genetic traits that define the species from other organisms, right? If everyone DNA sequenced their landraces and one could have access to shared data it would allow for comparative analysis on a phylogenetic tree and show what varieties contain shared evolutionary traits. with more dataset and research, primers for gene regions that are unique to certain regions or biomechanics could be categorized, created and used with gel electrophoresis to confirm the presence of these identifying genetic pathways or traits. The more data sets the more information you get of the story and the easier it is to find and select for stabilizing those traits. for instance, what if you found a nice research article that is kind enough to share the forward and backward primers for the area of the cannabis that designates a male plant, take a small piece of plant material extract dna and run on gel electrophoresis, if you get a reaction then the genes are present and its a male. also it kinda makes things fun when you see the whole story and how it relates, reminds me when Finnish ppl are DNA tested and it shows small percentages of japanese, korean, mongolian, siberian and native american genes, gives you a little more insight when looking into the past.
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@rigdzin heres another thing from @romanoweed
Also to take into consideration but keep in mind most of academia only takes parts of the story into account so often time we have to string together things to get a more accurate representation
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you people see in the link of @rigdzin
about basal Cannbis, actually thats what i lately said: Indian and the whole SE Asia samples showed in a different Category than other Drugcultivars. AND thats that point i made, if you look at the Genome Data, it is quiet similar to the Basal Cannbis category.
Atleast @piffcat on instagram said they are quiet similar.
So, in other words: any Indian/SE Asia sample shows similarities to basal Cannbis (original wild Cannbis ) from China. some other Samples like Peru France or North american samples clustered in the other Drug-type group.
Hmm, now as im citating it, im actually unshure what those other Drugsamples all included. Its actually only one peruvian landrace on the one map, but in the lower graph we see dozens of red-marked-Drugtype Samples.
I agree with Rigdzin we should analyse our freaking landraces , that would be very helpful to identify hiden hybridisation, wich is unhelpful for long term preservation probably… it would also help us understand if hybridisation prevents certain effects… so we could look if per example only pure cultivars can give anxietyfree effects. (i balieve that might be the case ).
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So do i , But i have serious trust issues about this due too phylos and Monsanto and their fuckery and all the implications there of
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Pure pesh, seeds are Oaxacan x peshawar pollen on peshawar female so oaxapesh X pesh i think thats how its done? If im wrong on ordering let me know thanks
I cant wait to see what these do
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It’s a bx1 to the Peshawar side of things if I read you right
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Yes but not your typical back cross kinda like a “broad spectrum” back cross 
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I one of many possible inputs for the spirit weed project
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