Landraces + Cultivar creation Project

Conducting a “cultivar” project. The process of landrace to Hybridization to cultivar .

I first hunted out the Hindu Kush f2 from trident seeds .this is photos from 3-4 consecutive test runs

This pheno displayed very Creamy on the nose almost like a slight vanilla. Very “oily” vs grainy (for all the hash heads out there, I wasn’t aiming for trich development ). I picked this pheno because of its short flowering time 8 full weeks ( day 63 in flower)
The beautiful pink pistils it displays throughout flower , it’s dense like golf balls remind me of the “OG” structure . The smoke is very smooth, not terpy just smooth. ( I imagine back then when they were selecting they didn’t have much to chose from . My guess is either it was very illegal back then so they had to make do with what they had or anything at the time was “fire” ) . Anyways The effect isn’t crazy . It’s just good ol “Reggie Bush” or should I say “Reggie Kush” ( all my OGs born pre 94 that remember “Reggie” only this didn’t have the seeds )







After hunting out the Hindu kush I knew the direction I wanted to go with this pheno. I want to recreate the “OG KUSH” which is a cross between Hindu Kush, Lemon Thai and chemdawg . I dubbed that project as the “post 91 OG Kush “ my representation of one of the strains I’ve grown up smoking on.
Now that I’ve obtained my pheno of “Hindu kush” I then seeked out the “Lemon Thai” and what better representation to use other than the Lemon Thai F5 from Doc D , . ( THANKS DOC !)

I popped 10 and all germinated

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as much as i’ve looked up those three terms, i’ve never really understood their meanings. could u help me on that, plz?

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nice work man, lets see what u will find

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Silk rout to salvation did an amazing job displaying the process


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Let’s gooooo these will be fire

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TY for trying to define. Clear as mud to me.
Also for some reason, i’m outta likes.

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It’s going to be a very long process but this is what I consider “life long research”.

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Hey i got a like in your last post.

Anyhow, yeah, life long research it is. I’ll just have to muddle my way thru trying to define what they are and the differences between “landrace, Hybridization and cultivar”. There’s also heirloom, ruderalis and probly others, which i’ve spent several years trying to understand, yet failing miserably due to my mental numbskulledness. S’okay tho, i do not grow, i’m just very interested in growing, and of course, i like weed, always have.

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Along with the Post 91 OG project I also popped 10 CSI Panama Red regs that were given to me from a buddy to hunt out and all 10 broke surface. Another friend of mine also gifted me a bunch of CSI Panama Red Crosses like the Panama Red X DogShit. But my plan is to pop the main regs first , find a keeper female and then a keeper male then reproduce those seeds. ( I do that with all the reg packs I pop. I keep a male counterpart that way I can reproduce those seeds and put them up in the library and then in the future I can hunt them out again for a specific project whether is back crossing them or stabilizing , what ever the case may be but I’m sure if yall made it to this point and read through all that , you understand .

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An heirloom is like a family crest, most true heirlooms will never get out of the “family” . That said strain defines who that is. When you smoke it or smell it you know it came from one area or the breeders circle in which the cultivar was kept, comes to mind. There are strains out there that will never be let out and hasn’t been let out for decades because it belongs to the “family”.

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I gotta reiterate, I’m not a grower, i think i said that, so for me the knowledge that you and other botanists, horticulturalists, biologists, agronomists and growers possess is absolutely useless. So i’m sorry to waste your time other than for purposes of discussion only. I’ve really done plenty of onlin work for my feeble brain to try to understand all this for the past several years, without growing but one plant, only to early veg stage. Then i dried it, tasted it, and still have a joint of it (it didn’t do shit, btw, as one would assume).

I do know this much, back in 1968, i regularly bought weed from a guy named Alex that … that, well, i still remember that stuff very fondly. In 1991 my sis brought some stuff over from Hawaii, Kona Gold, that i will never forget. I smoked Thai stick in the 70s that was great, did some skunk in the 80s and 90s that i remember. I got busted selling 1/4 oz of colombian green in 1991, leaving me with close to 4 oz left, that i will never forget for it’s smooth taste, and guaranteed buzz, that my wife and i still remember. In the past 8 yrs of buying some 200 of all the wildly different phenos from dispos, there’s nothing there that i remember, or i’d buy that shit again. THen there was the Mexican dirt weed and/or brick weed ppl still talk about that was widely consumed in the 60s and 70s that worked, got u high, harshness and effects varying to some degree over that decade, but it worked far better than what i discussed that dispos provide.

No matter the varieties i’ve tried over the years, I don’t think my pallet is that refined to “smoke it or smell it (and for me to) know it came from one area or the breeders circle” with much certainty at all. I kind have come to think with all the varietals i’ve tried at dispos that cannabis has been hybridized from what I used to smoke and get too high a lot of times, to where it’s all mids. It’s really a fucking bummer because when legalized, i thot surely there’d be some dynamite smoke out there. There’s most definitely from my experience, not. Really bums me. :frowning:

Another point that deserves attention is what you growers produce in OG and other grow boards. It looks and sounds fucking DYNAMITE. Sure wish i knew a few of you locally. Oh well, that’d be illegal, so fuck that. NOT goin’ back to fucking jail, that’s for damn sure. Thanks for tryin’ to help me understand things here. And i’m not giving up either. I guess it’s fun (mids-wise) buying and trying.

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The serrated leaf margins between the three .

First photo is the Pine Tar Kush IBL from CSI Humboldt,

The second photo is the Lemon Thai F5

the last photo is the Panama Red from CSI Humboldt

Pine tar kush IBL displays a rounded serrated leave structure on all of the phenos. Very distinct .

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(Left to right)

Lemon Thai F5 , pine tar kush iBL, Panama Red.

Transplanting into a one gallon and then topping each for clones then flipping to flower. I kept one male out of each stable for the reproduction /f2 project I conduct toward the end of the year.

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