Man you got a schmidt load of room in there nice grow! Those blants look really amazing and happy. Keep up the great work!
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If that’s the eastern Manipur Burma from ILE I have some of the same one going atm, how long did they take to start flowering from the time the light was flipped ?
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These flower 16-20 weeks @Heritagefarms
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I’m aware of the flower time, what I was wondering was how long from the switch to 12/12 before hairs and balls started to show , some strains start to flower within days of the switch while others can take a week or more to start. What I would realy like to know is how long from the switch to 12/12 before the mail starts to shed pollen
@Bajode5 how long ago did you switch the lights on those ?
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The Eastern Manipur cultivar from ILE doesn’t start to flower until the light is round 10-9 hours. I have one outdoors that didn’t begin until 10 hours of daylight.
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I have noticed that Eastern Manipur is very slow to switch to flower. It took 8 weeks outdoors for it to reveal its sex. I have read many grow journals from the Indian Landrace version to the different genetic variants offered from RSC(Manipuri and Ukhrul). All grow journals, both indoors and outdoors reveal that this cultivar takes a minimum of 30-45 days to reveal sex, only after the light cycle is near 9/9.5 to 10 hours.
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If I remember correctly, at eight weeks on 12/12 I was able to see the first defined sexes. The first to show was hermaphrodite so I removed it, the rest the following week and a half already had defined sex.
My plants are only to generate seeds, so I did not dedicate myself to looking for flower production.
The last photos correspond to close dates, the project began on August 28 with 12/12.
I perceive aromas of grapefruit / citrus / tropical.
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Thanks for the info I have some that I’m going to put into flower mid feb and they will be giants I can already tell , I’m planning on making more seeds of it in pure form and also crossing it to paki chitral kush and a Kandahar . The timing of when to introduce the faster flowering paki/Afghan strains will be crucial to hitting the perfect pollination window.
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The Daylight hours seems so short. Sure the plants weren’t stunted by cold? Had it happen with Malana… stopped flowering dead in its tracks for 4 weeks. Also the stretch counts towards flowering…
Taking that amount of time to reveal sex is pretty common. Perhaps the other people growing those for ice and flowering from seed and they were attempting to speed it up. Even goroka Highland flowered correctly with 12 hours of daylight. Strange.
In Imphal Valley Manipur this is the photoperiod when flowering begins. There
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No, it seems to be normal. The reason why I say this is because indoor growers took heed to the other growers noticing a difference of the 9-10 hour light cycle and adjusted their schedules. One such grower started Manipur at 9.5hrs and it showed sex in 4 weeks. An outdoor grower in Colorado had the same issue. I am at 33 degrees latitude. Cold weather was not a factor, the female flowers began to show with an average of 78F daytime temperatures, 65F nighttime temperatures. The autumn is very warm here in the southeastern US. Regarding the stretch, it stopped stretching well before the stigmas appeared.
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Perhaps these other guys aren’t letting the plants reach sexual maturity before flipping to flower and are using very short days to speed the process up, and it sounds like they sex very quick that way, but such short days aren’t a necessity to induce flowering.
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That too, was my initial summation. I then found out that the 9.5 hour light cycle was in response to observations of previous success from the same grower. This brings to mind the discussions around the 11/13 cycle, of which DJ Short is a proponent. I may have the time in March to run a small side by side run of Eastern Manipuri. One tent on 9/15, the other at 12/12. I’m thinking clones may be the best chance at repeatable results and consistency.
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I believe it was Sam skunkman who once said he used to trick them into showing sex by switching lights off for like 24hrs for shorter flowering varieties and 48-36 hours dark for longer flowering varieties. After which he would go back to reg light schedule for veg. He said most will show sex in a week or 2. So maybe this trick could be used just to induce flowering quickly.
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I was thinking about that myself because I have one that is about two months old in veg and has shown it’s self to be a boy.
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It is possible that Eastern Manipur/Manipuri/Ukhrul all possess some type of genetic mutation that relates to photoreceptors and day length. There are indeed some that respond to 12/12, but this cultivar presents some truly anomalistic properties, morphologically. It is important that we all remember to these are largely uncharted territories. I have some magic beans from brother @Shiv9545 that are a treasure chest of immense possibilities. I will no doubt keep an open mind and a big mile on my face.
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Definately use clones. I have read that less than 10/12 or 10 on hours indoors lessens resin. I’m curious to see how much it is lessened
Snowhigh recommends 101/2 on hours. Close to what DJ Short does. Somewhere in there must be the sweet spot. I’d do it myself but i need to be able to see and work with my plants morning or night and with work i am gone nearly 12 hours a day.
A tropical plant doesn’t hit full genetic maturity until its almost half a year old. Shortening cycles too much takes away from the final product. Takes so damn long to grow I want it as close to mature as I can reasonably get when I harvest. Not worth losing quality over a couple weeks.
For seed making, it might be a great option. Not sure.
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It’s hit sexual maturity then. At this age in Manipur it would begin flowering( the stretch)cycle.
Might cause hermies indoors. Interesting though. If i had more space I would try it. Maybe next summer.
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Yep I always wait for them to show on there own, these will be heavily pruned back and allowed to veg for another 2 months before they get put into flower. I have some paki chitral kush in line ahead of them.
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Are these varieties better suited for warmer temps?
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Keep the roots warm. Use a heating mat. It simulates the warm earth of it’s native climate. Plants growing on a cold floor will cause hermaphroditism. That applies mostly to cultivars from equatorial regions. Mountain ganja doesn’t have the same requirements.
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