Lost Civilizations: Before the known

Sorry missed your post, between the 2 I made.

That’s a good question, and I think I understand the point you are making.

For this planet and present human cultures, I feel we are losing our care and compassion, for all things that live on this planet.

We don’t fully understand the planets natural complexities yet, or just don’t care enough to know, for the good of our home here, unless there is some financial gain from knowing.

So it’s hard to say who should get to be making a fair decision of what is suitable care, as everyone sees things from different perspectives, most governments and big corporations only consider financial profit or deficit, rather than how things are affected in an eco system.

Hopefully it would be the people who care about all things living on this planet, and not just the human population, that are involved with that decision and not the 1%, who are intent on destroying the planets eco systems, for their short term financial gain, and to the detriment of everyone else. Like the oceans for example, that are reported to be on the verge of collapse.

I guess you just can’t build a rocket and leave, so whomever controls the regulations needed for leaving the planet would decide that one :thinking:

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But… What was the inspiration behind it? I made a bunch of labels for a local brewery in the Yucatan (Mundo Maya Beer), and researched the HELL out of Mayan history and folklore so I could incorporate things into the labels. Most of their “Gods of XX” have some kind of local inspiration. Some of the art I used on “La Serpiente”, “El Guerrero” and “El Quetzal” were hieroglyphics taken from their carvings, and had been inspired by local animals / traditions.

So what inspired the trunks and body shapes in the carvings (I wish I could find the carving that really was in the shape of an elephant, was on a “totem” or column, in the very beginning of the complex (shortly after you pay / enter)). Our guide was happy to point them out to us, otherwise we might have missed all the elephant references…

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I know what cement is lol.

You can’t just mix some shit together and make granite or other igneous rock. It just doesn’t work that way. You have to melt rock and let it cool slowly. That is how it is formed. Which means they had the ability to melt rock in some sort of intense blast furnace…which sounds unlikely. And would take other technology like steel, coke, etc.

If anything is possible and they had all this “crazy technology” why couldn’t they fight off a few hundred Spaniards with steel and horses?

The answer is less fun and “boring”, but it’s overwhelmingly likely it’s simple techniques combined with a lot of time and labor, not fantastical techniques and technology lost to time.

As far as a water jet goes, they’d have to build a reservoir (why aren’t there any surviving examples of this massive project) and then…what drag huge blocks over to the water jet, let them be abraded for a few weeks, then drag them back to the structure? Makes no sense. More likely cut on site or nearby. Terrain does not allow dragging huge blocks uphill in the Andes.

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For what it’s worth, everything I said was pure conjecture. More knowledgeable people than ourselves are still drawing a blank.
Sorry if I came off like a dick.

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Movement of the peoples

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…Salamanca,Spain…

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Temple of Vettuwan Coyle
8th century AD

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You didn’t come off as a dick at all. Your input is appreciated. In my view this thread is more about playful exploration of mysteries and possibilities then pontificating currently dominate narratives.

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Not at all, I just think it’s important to try to be realistic.

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It’s a delicate thing, challenging the idea without resorting to emotion or criticism of the person bringing it. Both sides bear some responsibility for that. If it comes wrapped in ire no one will object when the bringer gets boiled in his own pot. How to think freely, free of our own need to dominate.

It’s mind wrestling after all, it’s a fun productive contest. Without civility it’s combat. Neither fun nor productive.

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Seem to remember something about that actually, but thought in this case it was from an indigo dye, like the Tuaregs use.

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I don’t see how thats possible with precision involved.

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I agree. I think Egyptology is a joke

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Just eat more mummies?

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Some of their explanations are quite silly. I don’t think the Great Pyramid was built by Egyptians and if it were, it wasn’t as a tomb as has been suggested, the main problem being the lack of a body or any evidence one ever existed. Its also interesting that there are no hieroglyphics in the Great Pyramid. Imagine…you build the most complex, massive structure in antiquity, maybe ever, and then don’t write about it? No songs, no tales, no pictures of thousands of men moving blocks? Nothing? Just a large high tech structure built with the precision of a machine and not a word to say…hmmmm.

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Careers have gotten in the way no doubt. The prevalent current idea is usually championed by the best funded front. Academia again. :joy:

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“all these archaeologists are dumb”

lol c’mon guys they literally study this stuff for a living not watch youtube videos. It’s possible they may know a thing or two about this sort of thing.

be reasonable lol

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Naw, they are fucking fools. Except for the ones shunned by general academia

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