Lost Civilizations: Before the known

I want to know how Machu Picchu was built. I think the pyramids in Egypt were built like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJcp13hAO3U

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The partially excavated Great Sphinx in 1878

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Thanks for the great tips!

I’m outside academia so I know more than archaeologists?

OK. It was elves. Elves did it. With magic. Elf Magic.

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NO way the elves did it… They are true craftsman, haven’t you ever seen what they did in Rivendell? Its way more refined than some stone pyramids :rofl:

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You should have seen it when it was built. But the armies of Mordor wrecked up the joint at the end of the First Age.

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That’s cool, what are you dying?

Butterfly pea flower is a cool one as well, abd changes color in different PH

HOW has this thread gotten this far without a visit from…

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I put a meme of that guy three posts ago. Looks like he has a lot of friends here.

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Really, what we’re doing here is what target shooters called applying “SWAG.” SWAG stands for “Scientific Wild-Ass Guess.”
Here’s another thought: We (humans) may have developed advanced civilization more than once. Some of the artifacts and monuments may have not only survived the flood and the Younger Dryas, but perhaps the whole ice age. That would explain the scarcity of evidence. The last ice age went from about 100,000 YBP to about 12,000 YBP, and there was a massive bottlenecking of our species somewhere around 70,000 YBP. If there was a civilization then, any evidence of it would have been covered in kilometers of ice, ground into fine dust and washed away.
At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I believe there are people who know about it, and keep it a closely guarded secret. In all fairness, I can understand why. Some of those secrets could radically change what we know. Such a sudden and profound change could shake society to its foundation. Here in the States, the edifice that is our society isn’t exactly sturdy to begin with.

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Great minds think alike LOL

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That was an issue with that thought experiment. Even if they did use highly pressurized water to cut stones, that doesn’t explain how the hell they got them onto mountain tops, let alone why. If, by some odd chance, we ever figure out how they cut them, we’ll not be any closer to figuring out how they moved them. It damn sure doesn’t explain the obelisks in Baalbek. We’re barely able to replicate that feat with modern equipment.

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Is there ANY evidence at all that leads you to this conclusion or is it just some stuff you WANT to believe?

We’ve found pre-modern human skeletons and artifacts…yet nothing suggests they were an “advanced society”. The glaciers didn’t cover the entire world. Just the high latitudes.

If our society collapsed to nothing this very moment, there’d be visible traces of it 100K years later. Structures, buried artifacts, etc. Sewer pipes, roads, skeletons buried with jewelry. Skeletons with obvious modern medical intervention. Bones with pins, fillings made of modern amalgams, etc.

Yes yes it’s easy to file anything under “they don’t want you to know” lol.

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I don’t have the first clue. I’m just throwing ideas out there, hoping everyone will poke holes in it.

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The burden of proof is upon the one making a claim

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I think some societies were MORE advanced than we previously thought…like…the mound builders of Cahokia and their empire. They had trade routes, complex stratified societies, etc. Empires collapse and are rebuilt. When Europeans arrived they caught them on the downslope. The Americas were going through an early bronze age at the time.

Or like how we find more and more cities in the jungle…we’re not gonna find a satellite tower but the empire was bigger than we’d previously known.

But when I say advanced I certainly don’t mean they were yakking on cell phones prior to the last Ice Age lol.

Metallurgy and agriculture is the key to advancement. They had agriculture but not iron (yet). Given enough time they would have.

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I figured the ADC would have been about as advanced as Europe during the Renaissance, at the most. Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Indus Valley and the Yangtze River Valley cannot be the first ones to have had a large food surplus, division of labor, a system of writing, etc.