Lost Civilizations: Before the known

That’s hilarious lol.

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I HAVE THAT GROWING!

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I’ve only been to Chichen Itza. But plan to do more of Central America like Tikal, etc. I will say this, if you can get a guide, its worth it. Ours was named Jaime, (hai-me) and he was SUPER knowledgable. I will also say you want to spend more than a few hours there (thats what the bus tour does, goes to Chichen Itza then to a cenote to swim in, cenote was cool though). Try to get there on your own so you can REALLY spend time there. Theres way more than you can absorb in a few hours… I would have liked to have 2 or 3 days to walk around the complex…

Seeing the influence of the Mayans, then the Olmecs and Toltecs, in person, was so much better than reading about it…

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Ok if there was someone here I would believe that about it’s you. LMAO

The first time I wore a genuine Japanese gi to kendo I hadn’t known to wash it. I came out of the locker room looking like a Pict.

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The great pyramid in Egypt has 2 Million blocks, each one weighs about the same as a large sedan. According to Egyptology it was built in 20 years. If you ran 12 hour shifts 365 days a year this equates to one stone being quarried, transported and precisely placed to the mm every 2.30 minutes. All without the wheel.

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Oh I believed you! That’s awesome! What do you do with them? Is Weld a dye? New to me.

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I popped them last spring and got them into the yard. I let them go to seed in hopes of a richer crop this year.

Each results in different coloured dyes.

Weld = Yellow
Golden Marg = Yellow
Dyers Broom = Yellow
Madder = Orange through RED
Woad = Blue (as we all know from your joke)

And the only one that didn’t take and wouldn’t have over wintered anyways was the Indigo; which I may try indoor in a tent as it needs heat.

Check out the madder variations:

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All impressive numbers. Which number generates the excitement here?

The number of stones? It’s impressive but obviously possible. There they are.

Their weight? Also impressive but only when multiplied in our mind by their number. Their size was determined mathematically even if not in Arabic numbers. The stone was progressively quarried and sorted by density the taller it became.

Tension building…

I would call this a false equivalency multiplier. This seems impressive to us because it’s how our lives are divided. Associating their mindset and ours is misleading. Comparing the relative volume/mass of a stone and a sedan is similar, it lends the sedan’s size to the stone’s weight in the mind.

Which leverages the 20 years “Egyptology” agrees all of this occurs in.

The wheel is another sort of situational misplacement. They existed but were useless in this application. Huge things were built without it globally.

The technology is the missing information. It’s difficult to imagine how to fit the time constraints with the materials at hand but that’s because we don’t remember how we did it. We being humanity.

I should say I don’t necessarily disbelieve genuine Egyptologists, they have access to the place and know far more than I about the culture. How they arrived at 20 years I don’t know but I’m sure it’s reasoned if not literally carved in the architect’s tomb. Someone someday will be thinking outside of the box and come up with a plausible explanation so much better than anything before and that’ll be the new story. Maybe after blazing some good shit.

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Cool! How permanent is that? Where is the color found in the plant?

Which one!? Depends on each. Some leaves, some root, some flower, some all or some parts.
Indigo requires fermentation and Madder is in the roots.

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I knew about Indigo and now I remember reading Madder root somewhere. Neat stuff!

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The red coats are coming! The red coats are coming!

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:joy: :rofl: :joy: :joy: :rofl:!

I ll search a old picture than i see a ten years of the pyramids on Amazonia.
The google dont help so much in this search

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That’s cool! To me it looks like a way to get the same visual profile from the ground using less stone. Very clever.

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They have precipitous terrain and a monsoon season. Gravity could have done the rest. They may have also had some version of cement that hardened into stone. Oh, what I would give to know the truth…

Speaking of carrying two lighters, I also keep a Leatherman, at least 2 lighters, pen and paper and a head lamp. If something happens, I want to be able to disappear into the woods with what I have on my person. In my truck, I keep enough supplies to keep me warm, dry, fed, secure and even entertained for up to a week. However you feel about it, it’s good to have at least one firearm in your vehicle if you’re going to be away from home for a while.

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Who does? Egypt? It was wetter thousands of years ago, but still quite arid.

Cement that hardens to actual stone is farfetched. There’s no “recipe” that’s gonna give you granite block. Takes immense heat and pressure.

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No, the people of the Andes. There are plenty of places to build a reservoir and funnel it into a water jet using gravity.
I was a plasterer and stucco mason, and the idea of cement that hardens into stone isn’t as far-fetched as you think. That’s actually what plaster and Portland cement does. The difference is plaster and cement are made from gypsum and limestone, respectively. Those are soft, compared to granite, but you get the idea.
All things considered, anyone who could build monuments like that…anything is possible.

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