Hoping someone can help. Not sure what’s happening here. Second run indoors in the new digs, first one was half-assed and this time around things are starting off similarly, but with more effort.
I believe I have thrips based off some of the leaf damage and maybe one captured.
My concerns are the leaves drooping, the brown spotting and leaves fading to a pale-lime green.
They’re in FFOF, being fed 1/4 strength FF grow big and big bloom PH 6.3. Under a 200w LED VIVOSUN light. Average day time climate is 73F and 52% RH. Lights off average is 65F and 58% RH. Just watered yesterday with a tablespoon of epsom salt per gallon (~1/3 gallon each to runoff). I don’t feel like I’m overwatering but I’m not convinced? These FF nutes also went through a winter or two in a shed in New England. Switching to Jacks 321 next watering. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Would say over watering whole plant is yellow wilting and looks like starting to lock out nitrogen. Here a chart that was just posted that I think is useful.
Edit: I was trying to respond to op my apologies for the mis-click
When you say 1/4th strength, does that mean in every watering? How often are you hitting with nutes? What size pots? They are deficient and my first thought is; well yeah of course they are if they are only getting a fourth of the food they need. I’m betting the soil is depleted of nutrients and they need more food.
Thanks everyone for the insight. Just to try to answer everyone’s questions and add whatever else I was missing for details-
I wasn’t feeding much for the first few weeks. Started in perlite/peat/muck mix, very light liquid kelp.
Transplant to solo cups after about a week above ground. They got bound in the solo cups before being transplanted to 1 gallon plastic pots 3 weeks ago with fresh FFOF & myco.
Last week was the first 1/4 strength feed, I had given them a roots organic grow terp tea after transplanting, and I drop a little liquid kelp, 2-3 ML in most watering.
I got a new Milwaukee EC/ppm pen to start dialing in for the octopot/jacks321 grow, tested the PPM of the runoff with the epsom salt watering the other night, it was something between 780-840 I believe. Only 280 going in.
So from what I understand they’re hungry, maybe need magnesium or nitrogen or something. I’ve been planning on switching to jacks asap just waiting on everything to come in, it’s all now here. Should I jump right into a full strength feeding or half strength, and should I let them dry out or just dive right in and spray the already wet dog with a hose? I got the 5-12-26(?) part A and Cal Nit part B, store brand plain epsom salts
Not 1/3 gallon of runoff, 1/3 gallon to each plant which allowed for a little runoff. I dumped the 3 spill saucers into one solo cup and it filled it to the brim. 4-6oz of runoff
Over watered. Giving them too much love and loving it to death. Let them dry back a little between waterings. Dint foliar feed when already over watered. Patience will be your biggest helper in this situation. It will take time to bounce back and throwing a bunch of stuff at it usually does more damage than good
I don’t grow in soil but I would not go full strength from jump with new nutes. I say start at 1/3rd strength and keep an eye on things. I would also allow them to dry back first. Here’s hoping another soil grower chimes in because I only have experience with perlite.
Let these girls dry out fully, meant to water yesterday but life and what not. just fed 1/3 strength jacks nutrients. 5-12-26 part A, 15-0-0 Part B cal-nit, and epsom salt. Will post an update in 2 or 3 days. Thanks everyone for your help
Much happier. Much much happier. Thanks everyone. Still looks like the purple lemonade (front left) has some yellow tips on the new growth if I recall correctly she’s looking for more nitrogen?
No flush, I pretty much followed your advice as interpreted (over water under fed). Let them dry out, did a 1/3 strength feed with jacks nutrients 321. I definitely feel they were over watered and under fed. Started too late and too light and the ocean forest was probably depleted. I could have even transplanted into my vegetable seedling mix which is super light, or a blend, I don’t recall and wouldn’t put it past me. Transplanting to 5 gal fabric bags with a 50% feed soon.
Thanks again everyone for your help!
