Still developing. The male has been doing some things. Each plant has significant variation so it has the potential to open up the gene pool from the current bottlenecks. Particularly on the 5haze side I hope.
The JJ’s Nigerian are coming along nice. These seed are an “f1” of the original Male C x NL pollen on the Nigerian Silk
3 of the 5 have the signature curl leaf found in the original 5haze. The Cuban Black Haze was already in full production by the mid 90’s and has the trait as does the Bandaid. I’m not sure if the Bandaid has it from the A5 side or is getting it from CBH.
I have also found this in some of the Chem which was a pre 90 mystery male to an afghani. There wasn’t much around in 90 when that chem seed happened
the CBH is the oldest confirmed one I know of. A friend has a C5 and A5. I have only heard of one of each of these cuts in circulation. I have to ask if his C5 has any mutations.
The Outback Haze x Silk S does not have the hook leaf and I have never noticed it in the A5 side. It is pushing out some other petiole leaflet mutations that have also been found in 5haze fgen. These mutations do have interrelationships if the gene is doubled up.
I’m really excited about this line!. It is as close to the original of anything I know of and was only outcrossed to pure sativa. The fact that most of them have the signature trait, but from a totally different branch than the other legends circulating has significant implications.
variations tend to get bottlenecked and harder to find even if work is never outcrossed. These plants could change that.
Another thing that stands out is how prominent this feature seems to be in the original or “F1” of the first release. It is in the CBH and the Chem, but that 3 of 5 from The Male JJ selected as well?!
that doesn’t seem like a rare recessive mutation at all does it?
however, just like terpenes and quality of the high can be rapidly bred out through selection so can a mutation. This might be a clue to the authenticity of the claims that original work is still held or at least that this could refresh and restore lost types to other original selection.
Along with selection of short early plants I think most early growers would have seen a mutation as a defect or illness.
My experience with the mutations is that they can be bred to recessive or amplified. The Bandaid 7 x Silk S testers compounded mutations to almost look sickly with variegation out the gate, but it clears up into strong plants. A compounding rix of mutations on both sides… I grow these Asian beans that are the size or rattle snakes. The plants look all sick and slow for about 6 weeks and then take over everything…perhaps also the selection of mutations.
Does anyone know if there are any other specific A5 or C5 cuts that are still held?
