***No Till Or Die Trying (3x3 and 2x4 living soil beds)***

Def looking proper! Loving the progress! They recovered quite nicely if I say so myself, should be some good smoke! :green_heart:

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Update on the 2x4. I have pushed this tent off for too long and now I am behind. JUST added another trellis and secured it to some bamboo so I could stupidly manipulate things even more… Will need to do another final pre flower defoliation here and there. This tent should have been flowering weeks ago, so things will be getting pretty tight in here.

Also added in some tent spreaders I made and 3d printed so I can squeeze every little inch I can out of the tent lol.

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Reading this thread make me fiend SO MUCH to get my no-till started! It’s looking so fire, and like so much fun (even when I know it isn’t). Thanks for keeping up with the updates; I really dig it.

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Looks insane in both tents! I agree with @HeadyBearAdventures this makes me think about a big bed of my very own someday

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I’m planning on setting up a 4 x 8 and a 10 x 10 this month with 2 Luxx 860w LED panels in my basement. I spent the last few months going through the build a soil series. I want to set things up simular to their build. I am really excited to get this project started as I am in the middle of winter depression shit and its hard for me to get out of bed when I am like this.
https://www.youtube.com/user/BuildASoil

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That sucks dude, depression is a bear, and in my experience it makes EVERYTHING hard.
This is a good place to be though: lots of (realistic) positivity, not the “love and light” shit that doesn’t help when you feel like garbage. And social interactions that don’t require as much emotional energy, when you don’t have any to spare. Plus weed. Everywhere.
Glad luck with your setup, can’t wait to see your first grow log!
Okay, back to you @bassman5420

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That 3x3 is looking great. A lot of bud sites. You got a great design for spreaders. Any plans on printing some for sale? I could use 2 sets and would gladly pay you for your trouble. Thanks :green_heart: :green_heart: :green_heart:

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@HeadyBearAdventures Lol I know the feeling and I think it has been pretty fun/interesting indeed.

@LegsMahoney Thanks bud :+1:

@FortyFi Woo buddy! That is quite the undertaking with a 4x8 and 10x10! That is some serious horse power you got for lights there as well, that is pretty awesome. I am glad my first nooby attempt at these beds has helped inspired a few people so far. Just try to keep your head up through these cold and gloomy months and keep looking forward and pushing through it bud :+1:

@OldGator Thanks bud, its moving along in there. Ya the spreaders work pretty good on my smaller tents, the 4x4 tent has too much wall material to get a good benefit from the tent spreaders alone since it really likes to suck the sides in. I really need to make a design that will spread and then allow you to attach PVC or some other pole/rod to it so it can spread/hold the tent open a bit and allow you to attach a trellis screen as well.

I had not thought of printing any for sale really since I was unsure if anyone would want them and if it would be worth it after shipping and material cost. I have only really come across 1 place/person selling any and I think he sells them for 25$ per set. Maybe that’s worth it to some people, but hard for me to judge that since I am such a cheap ass lol.

I am getting ready to pull my printer back out so I can print more training clips and tent spreaders though. I also really need to redesign some things/test some different prints. I have to register for another free trial for my 3d design program though because they locked me out after my trial expired lol. We could always chat about it and see, I just would not want anyone to be unhappy with what they get, so I usually just steer clear of those situations heh.

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3x3 bed in the 4x4 tent, day 34 or 35. The plants are not quite as happy as they were sadly, but they are still doing their thing and thickening up. Not sure all of what is impacting them, but its getting really cold and my VPD has not been where it should be for a while.

That being said, buds have been falling over and since the second screen is so high, I will have to just tie up some more buds that cant snag on the screen. Good problem to have heh.

2x4 bed in the 2x4 tent, day 3 or 4 of flower. Bounced back after putting the second trellis on there. Did a little more defoliation and watered in some malted barley, kelp and alfalfa tea with some molasses and rootwise. Still been battling thrips in a few tents and ran out of Dr Zymes so I have used some neem and agsil a few times in the 2x4 and veg tent.

A little peak at what’s in this tent in the video clip: 3 dirt cheap lights, 1 clip on fan and 1 exhaust fan is all that is running this tent. Hopefully next cycle I will be able to control the environment a bit better to speed things up.

On a side note, my 2 Earthbox Originals and 1 Earthbox Junior showed up and I will be firing up a grow diary for those as well here soon :+1:

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You and I are in a 2x4 SCROG flowering Drag Race! :racing_car: I’m on Day F7…

Looking great in there, how did you think about defoliating, like, what was your philosophy when deciding what to remove or leave?

I’m also curious if you think 2 Earthboxes would fit in a 2x4 or if one is the max it could take…?

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Dude, I’m probably an idiot for not noticing them before but what are those black things in the corners? are those little arms to keep the tent from suckin in too far when the exhaust kicks on?? Very cool

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Yes those are 3d printed tent spreaders I made. My prototype, I need to redo them a little honestly, but they get me a little more room heh.

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When I defoliate I usually go about it in 2 ways. First is I sit down on my ass and look into the bottom canopy and find a level of the canopy and strip everything from every branch below that (usually at the first trellis screen). Then I stand up and look over the top of the canopy, every big fan leaf I find covering a potential top/cola I take off.

I do this a few times and end up finding branches that wont make it up etc that I need to clip off a little down the road. Trellising plants out and trying to economies all the existing material and then removing fan leaves blocking sites is a good way to get way to thick of a canopy if you let it get out of hand lol.

2 normal earthboxes wont fit in a 2x4 but 2 juniors could squeeze in.

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Right up my ally! Tagging along for the ride here, we have very similar style.
Love the tent spreaders! Everything looks great
You should produce and drop ship to B.A.S. :wink:

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Howdy bud! Hitch a ride, plenty of room up in here! I was loving what I saw looking through your grow. Very jealous of your light and a few other items you have in your back pocket heh.

Seems everyone likes these tent spreaders, I get comments and msg’s about them a bit. Funny thing is that set I am still using was the first one I threw together earlier this year, I am working on a few MUCH better designs. I have a better sturdier design for the straight tent spreader, but I am most excited about the new style I have been printing and testing prototypes of. It is the Rolls Royce of tent spreaders for people wanting to push the limits of their tent to the max. It is a tent spreader that is made to attach anything from a piece of bamboo and up to small pvc or tent pole like material, right to the spreaders to keep the walls pushed out to the max level your spreaders are assisting with and be able to attach and stretch a trellis screen to. This is how I would like at least 1 layer in my tents to be done, so I figured I would put the extra work into designing some to be pretty much universal for the material you wanted to use for the “poles” connecting them. Still finishing things up as I design others as well, but it should be pretty cool when I get it done and tested.

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That sounds super cool! I’ll take 2 sets for sure

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Just a couple pics and a vid clip of what I came home to see. I gave the 2x4 bed a heavy watering of a witches brew before I went to do some work and this is how they greeted me.

Poor little tent is trying to do something, even with its VPD being out of whack. Cant wait to get this tent lined out better with another fan and piping a humidifier tube in through a vent hole so I can actually get some control back in there.

The feed I gave them was: Alfalfa/blue corn SST, Rootwise, cheap organic aloe leaf powder from amazon (not sure if I am going to keep using this type), a little freeze dried coconut water, Quillaja extract and a pinch of Cytoplus. I would say 2-2.5 gallons went in the bed and the rest went to a few plants in my veg tent and the 3 plants I just transplanted into an Earthbox and Earthbox junior (watered in the top not in the water fill tube).

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:astonished: whoa shwing!!!

Looks Great! My gals have been a bit droopy since I gave them a big water the other night, wish I saw this in my tent instead

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Man. That spread is unreal @bassman5420 pretty much everything I want for my own setup going on. Let me know when you have those spreads dialed in too I’ll for sure sign up for a set of those things! Keep up the killer work dude!

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@LegsMahoney Thanks for the kind words and inspiration bud. Cant wait to see you get things rolling when you transition. Lol I am really surprised that people are interested in tent spreaders of some sort. I figured I was one of the few that was interested since I have only really seen a tent spreader for sale in 1 place.

@BeagleZ Ya it can be a bummer to see them stop praying as much. Your bed is looking mighty fine though that’s for sure. But I was indeed surprised to come home and see some leaves in there were not even praying but 100% vertical. I was getting concerned they were going to get a little sunburn on the bottom of their leaves heh.

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