Oh, well thanks for pissin on my parade…lol
Just kidding. 
I dont know if it the real deal or not but i like it whatever it may be. The smell and taste does remind me of what i was smoking in college but then again i wasnt growing it…just smoking it.
@Witchking haha like I mentioned, I’m sure there’s NL5 genetics in it, just most likely not pure as Greg claims. If it truly were an “IBL” then over 90% of the plants would grow identical to one another. I’m sure you got a nice clone. I’m curious how close one of my NL555 cuts would smoke up against what you’ve got. Wonder which would be more nostalgic for ya. Let me know if you’re ever interested in growing one out.
he’s right, down in washington. My first Northern Lights encounter was on a biker road trip to a couple hundred acre farm property outside everet washington. Had to be around 92 or 93 maybe. Northern lights was “the” bud at the party and the way @Lightviber9 describes the smells tastes and effects are spot on.
A couple or so years later that same clone was a staple in my cash crop grows and in the local biker affilliate grows (langley/surrey BC) and I am sure elsewhere. I had no trouble moving indoor packs at 2800us in those days. The OG or “the kush” as the lowermainland dealers called it, began to show up and replaced the NL and several other great strains. The cash crop market moved in a different direction after that, driven more by cannabis cup hypes in the early to mid 2000’s. At least that’s how I remember the Vancouver BC side of the NL story.
I havent heard of the 555. If its the real deal…i would very much be interested in growing it.
While never the purest…if its real its real. Always want the real deal.
@SHSC-1 wow! Thank you for the firsthand story/experience from those days. I was too young to be about it in the early 90s but happy to have gone against the trends of the times (early 2000s OGkush wave) and to have kept this ol’ gal around. I’ve made my seed version of the cut (NL555) and am happy to share some if you’re ever interested as I don’t meet many folks these days who were actually there during that era. I still think it’s better than any OG or any of the moder “it” strains as there’s just something so well rounded about her that I’ve yet to find in other strains.
@Witchking Go back up and read my original post that started the thread, the NL555 is my seed/back-cross version of the NL5 original cut. Genetically, it’s as close as anyone is going to come these days as according to a lot of old school heads, no one has this cutting anymore.
Thanks for Sharing… Really Grateful to all U guys for Ur Stories/Experiences… Learning alot & this Thread is Very Informative
Been looking for an original NL5 to combine with this Original G13 skunk !
Not sure if bcbuddepot still has it skunk#1 x NL but maybe this is what your looking for poped 20 seeds of it with my father 10 to q5 years ago there was some bizarre phenos in there all over but my father said alot of that reminded him of the ole days
@AdvancedGenetics well you’ve come to the right thread! Are you talking about combining a female or a male G13Skunk? I’m sure you know the NL5 original cut is a female but I’ve made males via my NL555 (NL5 original back cross project). And when you say Original G13Skunk, what exactly does that mean, like which seed company/breeder did it come from? I know Nevil made a G13/Hashplant and a G13/NL2 from The Seed Bank.
@IndicaDominanT My pleasure, always happy to share what information I’ve gathered over the years. That’s what we’re all here for I hope
@belleswell I remembered that Nevil made an NL5 x Skunk1, I wonder if that was what you got back in the day and not Skunk1 x NL. If so, we could definitely try to remake something, all we’d need to do is find some nice Skunk1 males.
I don’t think you’re alone in this either. I’ve read so many good things about Todd’s NLs.
Statements from one breeder about another must always be read with a grain of salt too.
Be nice to have a real deal Sk1 again.
I have 3 packs of the NL555, but havent grown them. Im also really interested in the NL5/Destroyer aka The Light, and The Hawk. My buddy has a killer WN cut, from 2006. 100+ days flowering, and stretches for 80 days!!!. Best to start it on 12/12-11/13.
Ive got 2 Destroyer S1 from Seedheads going, and am extremely impressed with them. I also have 3 packs of Cabinet of Curiosites DESTROYER, which are an open pollination of seeds he got in 2005-2010, straight from the breeder. He calles it an F2, but 20 years ago they were stabilized at F8, and I believe the original genetics were lost around 2015, stayed around for a bit, then left the business.
Whats the consensus on AG Sk1? MI gave seeds a buddy several years ago, but the plants got neglected, and never panned out. I will say the ones I saw were Narrow Leaf.
Deep Ellum has NL2, hes had since the 80s.
Ive also got some NL from Green Stash, but havent grown them.
I have listened to most all of the ones that @Heliosphear has been putting together. He has graciously been playing musical interludes in his podcasts
of some of my music, so I have listened to most of them.
I went through them again looking for breeder Steve’s name and did not see it.
I then did a forum search and found a thread with a link that was posted this year. It took me to his podcast 33 which I listened to. Do you have a link for the one you would like me to listen to? Knowledge is a wonderful thing.
Another reason for setting peeps up with that strain is the time to fruition.
3 months. We gave away the gear as in the two 1000w fixtures/lamps/timers. We also installed the temperature controlled exhaust fans. The fixtures had an umbrella reflector over the lamps, and the lamps hung vertically.
We attached them to something called a whirrly gig. It was an 8 foot slightly curved piece of metal that was attached at the middle with a gear driven motor. It would slowly rotate 180 degrees, and then back again. It took almost a minute to complete the cycle, but with a 1000w HPS hanging at one end and a 1000w MH hanging on the other, this allowed the lights to penetrate the canopy better as the slowly rotating lights would give the lower branches all the light they needed to produce. We would have them rotate the pots that the plants were in 180 degrees when they watered, so that they were getting the exposed to both the MH and the HPS.
We would collect half of the first two harvests for the gear, the setup, the clones, and most importantly, the knowledge needed to get them going.
As I write this, I’m reminded of the whirrly gigs that allowed the lights to rotate.
I’ve not seen them in over 40 years. Most people have never heard of them.
Getting half of the first two harvests was icing on the cake as the return was 10 fold what we had invested in the gear we gave them. Waning nostalgic again. 
25 years ago they sold a similar device on a tract that moved back and forth. You needed it to get the light closer to save space
I fully agree, especially when it comes to NL5.
The NL5 that was popularized around the world is quite different then the NL5 clone that the Indian found. I have a hard time believing that is the clone you have, especially since that the clone should be over 30 years old and we know from all the legit clones from the early 80’s have a very hard time keeping up today. You wasn’t even around at that time to have actually seen it or tasted the flower, you only have third party accounts.
The same clone that was sent to Neville, that he said was trash compared to all his different NL lines. The NL5 x NL2 that neville made is phenotypically far away from the PNW NL5 clone. Nevilles work was pure indica types with less then 25% throwbacks to the more stretchy Colombian/Mexican Hawaiian that was used in the making of NL5. While the NL5 that was taking place in America, focused on the hybridised “mixed” phenos, leaving it less inbred.
Why would you use something that is further away phenotypically then using Greg’s/CSIs/Riots gear that would give a much much much higher chance to find something that match the supposed clone… Is sounds to me that you are just trying to use as much supposed “rare”-shit as possible to hype yourself up…
As a breeder I find your “insights” hard to swallow…
Pz 
My all time favorite!! 
I dont understand that response. What is he hyping up im not following. Or is this related to something else yall have talked about. I do agree with you on the older cultivars being sluggish they take a long time to veg for sure.
I like when they get reinvigorated with new material then backcrossed. Are you running any nl currently?
Yeah, maybe it’s incoherent rambling, but I have a hard time with the “Original NL5 Clone” it screams prepre bullshit! Which led me to dissect other choices in the breeding process. Backcrossing is about finding a line of males that lock in most phenotypical expressions of the mother. To be able to do that your males need to have a large percentage of the same gene pairs. Using a male with Nevilles NL5 work, which is wastly different from the supposed PNW NL5 clone seems very odd to me. The better choice would be to use Greg/CSI/Riot NL5 work to find a matching first male, but they are very available to everyone. Giving me the feeling is not to bring the best bx possible, it’s to smash the most rare type of NL5 together to use as hype for the seeds. The likelyhood they are bxs of the original PNW NL5 clone seems unlikely to me.
Remember, the original PNW NL5 is suppose to be older then the infamous NL5 clone Neville found. Which is dead today…
I’ll leave it at that, I’m probably totally wrong but it’s just to flashy and good to be true imo. Red flags are being raised.
Pz
I got old a preserved original G13 skunk that was bred by Diamond Duke back in the early 2000 .Its a female clone cut. Sweet skunk gas, pine rots, skunk funk, and pine skunk.
@LonelyOC It’s easy to see that you actually believe the BS stories SeattleGreg and Todd (and even worse, Matt Riot lol) have been throwing around. The Indian didn’t ever find a cut of NL5, Herbie created it with his “Herbie’s Hawaiian”. I won’t waste my time repeating myself, iust go listen to the newest episode of the Potcast with MeanGene and Mr. Bobhemphill, both highly respected old school breeders, and hear them both talk about my NL work, and MeanGene specifically having tried the flowers from my cutting, just listen to what he says. JJ from Top Dawg gave my ex-partner the NL5 x NL2 because he tried flowers from the NL5 original cut and realized what it was. Old school people don’t listen to other’s stories, they go off of their personal experiences
Have fun believing Matt Riot and Todd, ask any real old head who’s grown their stuff and you’ll hear the same thing: it’s not the real deal NL. So go and actually ask all the old school folks, they all know the stories Greg and Todd spread are outright lies. I just got a DM yesterday from another old school grower talking about growing out over 250 of Todd’s NL2 and finding nothing but lies in the genetics. Proof is in the pudding as they say.
And regarding the differences between the US NLS and the Dutch NLs that Nevil bred, first off you work with what you got, also it’s definitely more interesting to me to work with variation as that is the only way to find new things and create new lines. All NL lines connect back to the US NL lines so they’re just slightly different, which again, is interesting to me. To each their own. Hate all you’d like, you seem to be the only one haha. And it doesn’t bother me, just want to reply to make things more transparent for everyone. I could care less if anyone wants my seeds, im happy to just grow cool plants, not impress weirdo Matt riot fans. Feel free to reply but I won’t be wasting any more energy on your words
Duke diamond is very underated he has some nice stuff. Particularly his durban thai its so good. I cant recall ever seeing a dominion grow here. Alot folks dont realize he supplied a ton of genetics to bros grimm 2.0.