Simple question…WHO has the oldest plant?
I guess it would be in clone form?
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My mistake, I thought you meant, “who is the oldest?”!!! lol
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No he’s napping…
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I have had this genetic since 1992…it is a old school hash plant that we renamed AK47… hard to grow, late flowering, massive producer of ridiculously potent weed…super high on the paranoia scale for unqualified smokers . Its the giant plant in the middle of the picture…still all bones and twigs at 38 days into flower but by 60 days it will be full of frosty bud
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Damn! I was going to say my Agent K clone is almost 3 years old but, nevermind.
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Would love to try that out!
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I have had the blue dream cut for about 14years now but a hash plant from 92 is dam impressive. Blue orca us rumored to be the oldest kept clone around but I haven’t been able to get my hands on it and would love to because I have some of the zazen regulars.
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My fingers are crossed that they turn out this round ( I have 3 of them) we have been having real issues with this strain for a while now and this is its final try. I had this genetic from day one when I started growing and it has a definite sentimental value, it was the first hardcore potent weed that I ever smoked and for many many years it continued to be the strongest thing we could find. A few years back it started to act up so we stopped using it but we kept a mom or two around out of nostalgia, my latest room was working really well so I decided to give it another go. About a year ago I turned one to male using a colloidal silver solution so I think I have some viable pollen of it to work with, I won’t go into details now but that whole spraying a plant with silver solution ruined a crop for me, pollen got out of containment LOL !
In its prime this genetic was the Badass Stealth Bomber of Doom, big huge massive plant with big fat frosty buds, super low odor nearly completely odorless , it smelled less during flower then it did in veg… the bud burned clean with a ultra white ash…distinct earthy hashy taste with a slight hazelnut undertone … huge lung expanding smoke, tickle your sinuses if your not careful… heavy hitting euphoric high that can cause massive life altering paranoia in inexperienced smokers, massive hit of energy and the feeling you need to be doing something important but you somehow can’t remember what the hell it was…the shit just messes you up really bad, leave the house wearing a work boot on the right foot and a running shoe on the left and not even noticing…And the craziest part of this genetic is that no matter how long you smoked it you never seemed to develop a tolerance to it…over the years strains have come and gone that have matched this AK’s potency but none had the staying power…by the time I finished a ounce of any other bud I was immune to it… but not this AK ( the guy it came from called it biker hash, Alberta Hash , we renamed it AK based off a magazine description of AK LOL my bad I confess ) you could smoke it bag after bag and it messed you up each and every time.
In a ideal run this plant grows fairly dense in veg with a heavy thick celery stalk down the middle, dark green leaves, some branching but mainly focused as central cola …once you flip over to flower the plant takes off and stretches like crazy, pretty much out growing everything else I have grown over the years… it develops the bulk of its leaves in flower and is very prone to nutrient deficiencies in flower… its very late to produce its bud, usually a massive explosion of bud production between weeks 6-8,9 … to get production you need to be perfect from tip to tail, the plant is unforgiving and and will go sour really quickly… hates getting dry and if it gets dry the roots never recover and it will drop leaves and never produce much.
So my current issue with it is that with my brighter lights, higher temps, higher CO2 environment the plant doesn’t seem to want to kick over strongly to flower like it used to under my normal HID conditions…it’s kind of caught between veg and flower and not showing me the development I would normally expect… I had the same issue last time I tried this girl but it was a mother I decided to try and I assumed the flowering issues were from it being a beat up mother . Maybe this genetic is done, my buddy under HID says its the same thing he’s seeing…as I say I have had it since 1992 and I Have no idea how old it was before I got it… its been quite a few years since we had a good crop with it…it truly was special and I do have some pollen. I have no idea whatsoever what this plant is, any speculations would be welcome.
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If it was me and i had the cash i get it invitro. If not self it and all the seeds breed true (IBL). Could look for a nice male down the road and sift for a plant that grows in your new room. Perhaps some of those less desirable traits can be breed out…the S1 will be just like her and breed true also you can sift for one to fit the new room. The genes are good…could tighten up with a S1. Then go pheno-hunting…its not like a dog that just up and died on you. Also keep the original for sure…always!
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That truly sucks that she is developing issues for you, sounds like she is a special girl. A friend of mine ran a clone of Northern lights for years that ended up going all weird with twisting leaves and almost a total loss of smell (which sucked big time because it had that awesome piney smell and taste). He said it was genetic drift caused by repeated cloning of a plant that was God knows how old. Hopefully she pulls through for you and suprises you.
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Romulan is the oldest cut I believe rumors say it’s been around since the 50’s I believe brought back from some Korean War vets from Korea.
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Soldiers were definitely bringing beans home from the Korean war and earlier then that. The first official report of United states soldiers using cannabis was in Panama in 1916. This is why even though Mexican weed was predominate pre 1970 some people had access to much more exotic smoke.
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I have lovingly carried this genetic for many years out of duty and honor with my cohorts LOL…anyways these days I have a pretty slick setup and figured if I couldn’t make it go now I probably never will be able to… these clones started perfect, rooted short and in pristine shape, plant was solid and dense during veg, looking 100% the way it should … early flower it looked great then around week 3 it seemed to stall out bud production and half stretch half fox tail … at near 6 weeks in there is barely any white hairs yet…tons of stem step structure covered in green micro nuggets with tons of leaves, some single weird leaves… So my plan is to let it run a few extra weeks… maybe my current environment isn’t triggering a stress flowering event and I run a much hotter night temp then I would have back in the old days ( manual controls ) … so I will let these 3 girls run as long as I feel they are still moving forward…once im done with the other girls I would consider dropping CO2 down a little from where it is … There is one great thing that I am keeping in mind is that this girl can be explosive, it will go from bones and twigs to full on massive buds in what seems like days…but I also remember this girl was picky on light cycle and would fox tail if you ever had any light penetration at night … or if you got a plant too close to a light …
I have some pollen I would share, one day I may consider dusting a branch or two in flower to see what happens…but no way would I consider investing anything financially to regain the genetic…of course i wouldn’t be lying if I hadn’t thought of doing something like your suggesting the reality is that I already have enough on my plate with my day to day job… if i’m lucky I get to have 2 crops per year and I am selecting strains based off the taste and quantity of rosin they produce. The AK produced great quantities of rosin, but the flavor wasn’t there and the potency wasn’t any better… with rosin things change…as you dab according to dab size … so its extra potency came thru in bud form much more then it did as rosin… however I haven’t had prime AK rosin yet… years of BHO but rosin press came long after this strains fall from glory … right now my top dabbing strain is SBG 1 of 10 from Seedsman seeds ( Strawberry Banana Grape) …its a taller sativa indica cross that ripens by 8 weeks…has dense frosty buds…sweet/piney diesel smell when raw… after it dries and cures in a jar it takes on a sharp fruity smell …taste is sweet and citrus in a joint, not outstanding potent just tasty…would be a fantastic daytime weed… now take that same girl and run it thru the press and holy crap ! the tastiest golden syrup you can imagine …crystal clear super sharp citrus burst , sweet pink grapefruit aftertones that make you want to keep dabbing and dabbing… the taste is so fruity and pronounced that its borderline suspicious that artificial terpenes have been added … That’s the magic of the Rosin press, it completely changes the paradigm of what I grow for , flavor is everything…potency is controlled by the number of dabs and I grow enough to make sure im well stocked for the year … so I apologize for the long rambling post…I am on Covid19 lockdown…my daytime job is shutdown…so im home getting blasted on edibles and dabs and doing my best to contribute to the community without looking like too much of a idiot… If you only knew the dose of edible I consumed a few hours ago LOL( well north of 1000mg) …holy fark im twisted LOL !!! we are making gummies from the leftover pucks…we are infusing them into coconut oil in a slow cooker then making gummies from them… … they are absolutely outstanding… taste like horses hay so we just cut them in bits and swallow whole …LOL…but we have the recipe dialed on cook time to desired effect… from high intensity stimulent like effect to very little “High” but heavy body buzz and sleepiness …wonderful sleep, even with a injury … and for the buzzy side, it’s almost stimulant effect buzz… i guess the long cook time breaks down the THC and makes then sleepy…and the short cook time keeps more THC intact making it more peaky … so tonight I took a big dose of our newest triple strength dose…definitely feeling happy and high as hell LOL peace everyone , thank you to anyone who took the time to read my crap ! even bigger thanks to those who take the time to comment .
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I get like that also…really high and then start rambling!
1000mg…pounds keys and oz’s
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I’ve nothing especially old, but an older gentleman I know is still running the Early Pearl and Blueberry he germinated in the 90s. The Early Pearl isn’t anything to write home about, but his Blueberry is one of my top five favorite buds I’ve ever smoked.
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I love the RO system inside the grow room. I added a 2nd storage tank to my RO system just for watering my plants. However I work for a water treatment company and can get an RO pretty cheap so I may add one to my grow room.
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I ended up using the RO to fill my drinking water bottles and just use tap water for my grow.... my tap water is really good here and is far less hassle then RO..
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The nice thing about RO water a side from being super clean with low tds is that fact that its mildly acidic from stripping out all the minerals
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I am starting to feel hopeful… the plant is starting to develop ! if it does as it used to the final center cola will be about the size of a 2 liter pop bottle
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if not, i’ve heard tissue culturing can kinda re-invigorate the genetics if you happen to know anyone that does tissue cultures, i also don’t know how true or accurate it is
the oldest plants i have are 2 phenos of white fire by OG raskal which i grew from seed Aug 2018… not particularly old
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