Hi again, dear fellas.
I am thankful to be here with you again, and I am excited that some of you liked it when I shared photographs, so I went to continue to share a little bit more and with a few more of you. Someone asked me where this thread is, and I guess it hasn’t really existed, so I hope to grow with you through all four seasons. Let’s see how it goes.
looks scrumptious. Thanks for sharing. Metal halide ?
(: Oh yeah, hey no I put a MH tag there, but that’s wrong, I’ll fix that. I am using a bunch of HPS and a few CMH lamps along with old fluorescent 55watt fixtures. There a couple of old LED panels but, they don’t work well.
This little bud here is under a couple of HPS lamps, and I think I turned one off. Let me find more pictures.
Those are still going because I’ve been too busy to chop them.
Thanks you too : )
Lots of vegetables: I just wanted to vegetate all winter. Not as exciting as looking at flowers, but I I wanted to show you some different methods I am playing with and what kind of beans I am playing with now. I have sprouted everything, no clones from outside.
I had planned to make a lot of clones for spring time, so I got a bi-metal circular saw and made mobile hydroponics systems for single plants, but then some friends gave me seeds and it is always very exciting when someone gives you something that is special.
This must look crazy because I am going to different areas on different days, but I thought it might be better to try to show you in chronological order.
The BT x A5 H F2 are taking off now…
Everything looks really good!
I built a little Rubbermaid system with net pots and hydroton too! It’s just for cloning though.
Shit looks crazy my man !
All that work and setup, working hard indeed 
Those HIDs are gonna bring all that goodness outta them fosure
Keep up the good work 
Thanks bros.
You are awesome.
Isn’t it super awesome to make fun hydro cloners for yourself and use them for years? It is fun to customize.
Finally got some nutrition now, I haven’t had it dialed in well here before, needed ingredients…
@luxton Look how nice! You think I can grow some vegetables yet, at least for a few weeks? I was thinking to try to make a work of art by transforming a drying rack into a vivarium tent.
@JAWS I know some of these guys like to collect and preserve, and also see the search to see lots of different things, and saw in one of jaws’ threads that people were talking about looking for skunks 
, and I thought about popping a few beans to germinate for fun. I thought it might be fun because I know what the animals smelled like and smelled it on bud when I was younger, but if I get a bunch of fruity nonsense, then I’ll know, and I can put this mystery in my mind away. I guess if I try to keep them small and compact, and I train them best I can, could get away with searching through many, within a tight space. I thought to maybe transplant them here about a week after germination.
That’d be really cool
That’s awesome that you’re trying it!! Give it a few weeks to start cycling and you’ll be good to go 
What veggies are you thinking??
I was thinking of vegetating these. I heard @BasementGardens and folks talking about skunks, and thought others might also be interested in this one too…
The Cali Connection- Island Punch Fem
I only had one, and it sat on the edge and gave a puny yield, a big blackberry sized top. Very beautiful smell when it was growing, smelled like tropical fruit punch, and sweet and wonderful. An almost perfect cure made it lose all that and kind of morph into something else more mild. Not very dense vapor, but a nice, semi strong high and medium high ceiling. That GDP was much better.
I checked the EC in this big drum I am storing the fish in; it was a low .3!
They have only been in there a few months it seems, but I thought they would give more waste… maybe the water is simply not homogeneous.
I read that these fish could care less about adding nutrient salts to these tanks, and that would make sense, I see fish living in murky water all the time… Have you ever added the remainder of the missing nutrients missing with the solution you know? ^^ Maybe with just a couple of canary fish? or is that no good?
ahh ok so for-sure those would be worth looking through, you should drop a few and let us know if find anything worth talking about.
nice have …
What’s your TDS like? Do you have any filtration on there? I’m curious what your whole setup looks like
I do add some MSP when going I to budding, and the last couple grows I’ve added a worm casting tea about once a week all through veg. Other than that, I have some alkaline buffer (pH up, but with buffer to help keep it there, mine seems to wa t to drop into the 5ish range, I blame the water here.
Other than that, it’s just fish poop for me, lol
Looks like a hell of a strain you’re gonna grow!! I’m definitely following along 
Thanks, luxton (: It’s a good thing you asked, because I had to go look that up, and I now know I can get one shipped for about 30 bucks. Man I got a simple aquarium pump with a little magnet that pushes the water through a sponge. you gotta take out the sponge and squeeze it under the sink once a month, and take out the magnet and clean with the fingers under water too.
I thought to not filter the water at all in their new tank, and instead to simply recirculate it up onto a bed of hydroton. The problem in my mind at this point is that I that I need $another tank for the plan to work. I’m trying to think of some other configuration to make it happen with what I got, and also see if I can’t afford a new tank to work with to make it more beautiful.- You mean you are adding worm casting tea into the fish water? Surely I can just add the remainder of the EC with either organic or inorganic nutrients if the fish don’t make it hard enough for the plants…
… Get one what?
The only thing you may have an issue with, not having a bigger filter or a biomedia bucket, is the solids build up. If your pump out to your bed is big enough, and sitting on the bottom, that may be able to chew up some of it.
If you don’t have a pump big enough, not to worry . Where you have the water return to the fish tank, if you return it right up against the wall and on an angle to keep it along the wall. Depending on your flow rate you may be able to have that start a little whirlpool which will get all the solids to the middle, making it easier to vacuum up. A whirlpool will also five your fish a little current to swim against, which is good for them. I’m incorporating a whirlpool into my next build .
Have a look through my grow log. At the start I go through a bunch of different designs I’ve ran with… Maybe you’ll see something that’ll give you an idea . If you’re trying to keep it as a display tank tho, you may not be super happy… The ideal aquaponic water looks like tea.
You betcha
Not sure what you mean here
I’m guessing by “hard enough” you mean nutrient rich enough? If so, for sure… If I need a little boost, I use gecko greens (I think it is) for veg and bloom. I’ll try to remember to take a pic for you when I’m down with my plants in a bit, if you want anyway
You’ll be stoked man… Watching plants grow from fish water is an absolute trip
Oh, all those solids you vacuum up… Water your outdoor garden with that water and watch it go insane. I say outdoor because sometimes those solids can build up and you’ll get an ammonia smell as it breaks down, which isn’t great inside, lol.
Heck yeah, I do 
Thanks, man.
Well I undertsand that the TDS is not convertable into EC, because its might be a bunch of undissolved solids at the bottom, so I need to get a TDS meter now? That I can get for 30.
Yes, by hard enough, I meant nutrient-rich or fertile enough; Since it is .3 EC now, and I cant measure the TDS, I thought to just add nutrients at 70% of what the instructions say to bring it up to 1.0 for vegetation. Or alternatively, just leave it at .3, or alternativly adding guano, which I think would be the most fun. Perfect, then it should be easy enough to rig this up! I’ll get back to you in a moment after I do some work around here on this. All kinds of options are going through my mind about how to execute this here.
Check out a multimeter, you’ll get pH and everything in there too
Ahh, electrical current… I’ve never found that to be as accurate, but I’ll start paying attention to mine more now and see what’s up with it
I’ve also never used guano… Dunno, something about bat shit and recent world events 
I’m looking forward to seeing your garden grow!!
Maybe I’ve just never learned how to read it properly, lol🤷
Maybe I am confused. Is TDS the same thing as parts per million?
What I usually do is follow the instructions on a bottle of the hydroponics formula I am using. Then after it is thoroughly mixed, like an hour maybe, faster if I stir it up manually with a cup or my hand, then check the EC to know what it should be. Then if I check it another time, I have to adjust it if it is too much or too little. It seems as though it is a different measurement that I need now to check this PPM of the TDS, because some of the fish waste is not measurable because it is not dissolved into water. Am I understanding this correctly or maybe not?
