I wonder how the sexual maturity is triggered. When do we know the plant is sexually mature? We know this right so what is the next step m?
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I know duck 74, I visit him and speak regularly, he did grow some png a while back from memory, his climate is well suited to sativas like that…
That’s heavy pre flower ,
You know like when they toss out a few pistils but your ones throw out a bit extra like a hairy lady …
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Looks like you’re a “gotta get the last word in kind of guy.” Heavy preflowering: your opinion is noted again.
Hahaha no I just like to get things right that’s all,
There’s enough incorrect terminology already so it’s good to try to get it right and or be open to revision, that’s how science works anyway.
Now I’ve said that I’m more than happy to sit back and watch, but I may put a picture up of some png I grew in the tropics and perhaps some information from Ben Thomas who did a study on png cannabis…
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Get lost troll
Huh? What’s the go there ?
Why would you say that?
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I don’t see where I have said anything to warrant that kind of response at all,
I’ve simply offered some information and stated why I’m also probably one of the only person ypu have interacted with on the forums who has been to Goroko, and hung out with png locals smoking weed,
I’ve also grown png weed and hybrids of it ,
I’ve spoken at length with a fellow who did a study on cannabis in png
So where am I trolling and why is my input not as important as anyone else’s?
In fact I may be able to offer some insights others have not due to my experiences
. How am I a troll?
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In a day-neutral tobacco, for example, plants typically flower after producing about 41 leaves or nodes.In an experiment to measure the floral determination of the axillary buds, flowering tobacco plants were ecapitated just above the thirty-fourth leaf (from the bottom). Released from apical dominance, the axillary bud of the thirty-fourth leaf grew out, and after producing 7 more leaves (for a total of 41), it flowered
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PNG - one of my all-time favourite grows a few years ago
Great to see all your growing and breeding with PNG
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Hi @wallyduck . Are you the breeder of ducksfoot? 
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yes thats correct …
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Hi @wallyduck . I am going to grow some ducksfoot this summer. Can you give me any tips or pointers? Also, is there a phenotype that grows like a vine? I thought that I had read that somewhere. But I may be wrong. Thanks.
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im not sure where you sourced them , some plants have slightly different likes and needs to others ,
but if you follow the general grow guides while watching for signs of issues you should do fine, there are some guys who have grown it on threads here if you do a quick search ,
some have other varieties bred into it for different results but the same leaf structure …
the vine one you speak of was from the abc , australian bastard cannabis , as far as i know ,
i recall fet showing some and talking about it back in the day …
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Thank you very much. I really appreciate you replying to my question. Have a wonderful day.
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I think your ideas and description about PNG are very interesting. I have often read where people grow a plant inside and think they understand it. I cannot believe that. I think that a landrace can only express its true self fully when it is grown in its native land. I greatly appreciate your opinions and first -hand accounts. I was wondering if you have an opinion about who has the most authentic version of PNG?
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oh its 100 % correct , i can attest to no plants ever going 26 weeks flowering outdoors in the tropics no matter how equatorial they are , 16 weeks max for even the most stubborn types…
i dont know of much png on the market ,
i have some in my stash from a friend , and some collected there from another friend ,
but similar to what ive seen on this thread , none of them are “the gold”
if they were anything like the png gold ive grown and has been grown around these parts,
it would become something many would talk about in no time at all ,
sadly the op of this thread has decided he doesnt want to hear about peoples experience about png , the place , the varieties there , who has grown them ,
who has studied them , what the findings were ,
seems a bit too self absorbed for that i note by the fact he has called more than one poster a prick , just because they didnt agree with something he has labelled ,
an inexperienced fella who never even went to the place to collect the seed himself ,
in other , most other threads ive been involved with in over 20 years on the boards ,
anyone with stories , experience , especially first hand experience , was welcomed to the thread to share information to increase the knowledge of the collective …
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I agree that more information is always better than less. I am intrigued by the fact that you have actually been to New Guinea. I like to know the background information about different strains. Their history and the geography and climate of their native land. What are the people of New Guinea like?
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here is a short extract from some correspondence sent to me by Ben Thomas ,
sadly he got sick , and i also had some issues with the law around the same time and i lost contact with him ,
its been over 10 years since i spoke to him ,
from what i could tell he wasnt doing well with both parkinsons and some other debilitating medical issue that prevented him from finishing his study of png cannabis ,
CANNABIS IN PAPUA NEW GUINEA
The species of Cannabis introduced into Papua New Guinea was
identified by botanist E. E. HENTY (1980) as Cannabis sativa L (see
Fig. 2.). It is an erect annual herb that grows from one to four
metres high. The leaves are palmate and compound with five to
nine narrow-lanceolate serrate leaflets, five to fifteen centimeters
long. The flowers are small, greenish-yellow and the male and
female flowers appear on separate plants. The male flowers are
loose cymose panicles, somewhat glandular and hairy. The female
flower panicles are more compact, covered densely with resinous
glandular hairs. The fruit and achene is three to four millimeters
long and is ellipsoid, slightly flattened with two convex faces
meeting in an angular rim (THOMAS 2000; THOMAS 2004;
THOMAS 2006).
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Botanical description
Cannabis sativa L.
Indian Hemp, Marijuana
Erect annual herb, 1-4 m high, branched or not;
leaves palmately compound, with usually 5-9
narrow-lanceolate leaflets, each 5-15 cm long,
retrosely scabrid, margins serrate; flowers small
greenish-white, the male and female on separate
plants; male flowers in loose cymose panicles, for
the upper axils, somewhat glandular-hairy, falling
after antithesis; female panicles more compact,
few-flowered, covered, often densely, with
resinous glandular hairs, fruit and achene, 3-4 mm
long, ellipsoid, slightly flattened, the two convex
faces meeting in an angular rim… (HENTY
1980:106).
The inflorescences of female Cannabis plants contain resin-
producing glandular plant hairs (STAFFORD 1992). Female
Cannabis plants can be identified by an enlarged symmetrical
tubular floral sheath. Wild Cannabis usually produces half male
plants and half female plants but this is dependent on
environmental conditions. More female plants are produced when
more light is available. In extreme environmental conditions
Cannabis plants can become hermaphroditic and are capable of self-
fertilizing for reproduction. The optimal conditions for the
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Australian Journal of Botany
For Review Only
cultivation of Cannabis is a light, dry, sandy, slightly alkaline soil.
The fertile soils and altitude of the Papua New Guinea highlands
provide optimal conditions for the cultivation of Cannabis. In
Papua New Guinea, Cannabis is usually harvested before the female
plants are pollinated and produce seeds (THOMAS 2006).
A POTENT STRAIN OF CANNABIS
High quality cannabis is cultivated in Papua New Guinea [PNG]
and is frequently imported into Australia (ABCI 1997;
MCFARLANE 2000; MCDONALD 2005). In The Australian Illicit
Drug Guide, it is reported that in Australia: «…Imported herbal
cannabis originates from Papua New Guinea and South-East Asia»
(CAMPBELL 2001:52). A potent strain of cannabis known as
“Niugini Gold” is grown in PNG. This strain of cannabis can be
identified by its red stem, compact golden-yellow inflorescences
(‘buds’) up to 15 centimeters long and a characteristic pungent
smell. The term “Niugini Gold” refers exclusively to the
inflorescences of female cannabis plants that are harvested before
they are fertilized and produce seeds. Most “Niugini Gold”
Cannabis samples are without seeds and is similar to cannabis
preparations known as ‘sinsemilla’ (MOUNTAIN GIRL 1977; see
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png is very mountainous ,
and very tropical being right around the equator ,
when we lived there in the early to mid 70s , there was barely a day where it didnt rain in the afternoon ,
my mother said u could almost set your clock by it ,
and it only dried out a few weeks between seasons …
i was only a boy of 6 , and very inquisitive , so i regularly escaped from my parents and went off with the png locals to explore ,
they treated me very well , i was never in any danger ,
despite the look of some of the guys who had bones through their noses as a form of adornment ,
they were quite peaceful and had a similar nature to children , hence them enjoying my company i gathered …
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Hey @wallyduck .What is your best opinion about the genetic lineage of PNG gold ? Do you think it is a distinct landrace or an import from someplace like Thailand ?
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