On Friday I started 14 seeds: 7 Blue Dream and 7 Blue Cookies. I started each strain as directed and added the lactobacillus. In less than eight hours, three of them sprouted tails. In 24 hours six of the seeds had popped. Those six seeds were planted the next day.
On Sunday I switched the seeds to the shot glasses containing the hydrogen peroxide water. Two more seeds popped giving us eight seedlings. Monday, another popped. This morning I switched them back to the lactobacillus water. All five of the remaining seeds are starting to pop now a few hours later.
I’m very happy with this germination process. Looks like I will get 100%. I’m even more happy with the strong and rapid growth of the seedlings. They’re all very strong-stemmed and robust. They’re starting to spread the second set of real leaves and just look amazing.
At this point I plan to continue using this process for the foreseeable future. I will continue to track the performance and report back.
I have never tried scoring. I would recommend starting a few seeds with the scoring, and a few without as a control group.
In my experience, the heat mat is optional. I always go as minimalist as possible, so I just try to find a clean dark cabinet that will not have any unexpected drops in temperature, or too much light exposure from people opening and closing it.
Tap water is best, it has much higher mineral content than distilled water which is beneficial, and the water treatment chemicals will also help to fight any contamination on the seeds.
That’s awesome Kingmambo, really glad to hear this method is working well for you too!
As soon as I hit on this method, it was very easy and removed so many variables that I had been struggling with in the germination process.
I’m not qualified to answer exactly what the lactobacillus is doing but the directions for this method mentioned something about inoculation.
I have an admittedly small sample size at fourteen but I’m going to continue this way to see if the germ rate stays very high.
Maybe someone way smarter than me (large sample size) can help us understand what it is or isn’t doing for us.
The other point of interest is the seedlings seem notably stronger and grow quickly. The seeds which popped in <12 hours went from planted in soil to first real leaves spread in 24 hours. They seem to be growing very quickly.
I guess we’ll see how this goes. Hope to hear from others using it as well.
Danzakuduro is the resident lactobacillus expert, I’d recommend you check their grow thread out for all the scientific details.
In short, the lactobacillus will consume competing bacteria and even some pathogens.
Here is our afghani. Called aitr
Collected in the Indus Valley Afghanistan 77-78. Pure oldschool funk affy. Dam terpy with the oldschool 2.5 to 3 hour high. Great meds
We will be releasing some in the future.
I’d love to find some “canadian 50 day indica” but not sure this old school line still exists. This was grown briefly in the emerald triangle in california, and used in some very good hybrids at that time. It was a great way for people to shorten the flowering period of true sativas. I don’t know whether this canadian 50 day indica or any of its hybrids still exist.
I used to grow Surf’s Up (thai x canadian 50 day indica) and that line was absolutely crazy.
The original Alaskan thunder fuck finishes super fast like you describe and was passed around quite a bit back in the day. I’m going to be hunting threw some pure indicas in the near future looking for a fast finisher for breeding stock. I’ll be starting with the Pakistani chitral kush and will then be exploring some other lesser known landraces.
I have the ATF also but will only be releasing it in crosses per agreement and respect for the source.
I was looking at the specs of PCK 2 days ago (at the Ace seeds site) thinking the same thing!
There’s some interesting phenos documented in the PCK breeders pack…
I have there’s and cannabiogens and will be growing them out together to compare. It has potential to be a great breeding plant to have in the program.
@goodgear great looking Afghan in the Raw. I have a few of those seeds too as F2. I Look forward to running them even more after seeing your picture! I’m guessing they are from the original release by Ohsogreen?
