Hi everyone! I have noticed in my last 5 crops that the buds have tiny little seeds in them. Some look like undeveloped cannabis seeds, white or pale green and others look like fully developed cannabis seeds, brown. They are the size of a sesame seed. It’s not like pollinated buds cotaining seeds within bracts, those are visible. In this case, I found them when grinding the buds, otherwise it’s impossible to spot them. The problem is that if I use a grinder they break down and the smoke/vapor becomes harsh.
It happened across different genetics from different reputable banks and breeders, so I doubt is genetic related.
Four of them started from photoperiodic feminized seeds and the other from a clone of a feminized plant.
Pollination from lingering pollen molecules is discarded because it happened with plants grown indoors in different sites, far away from each other. Tents are cleant and disinfected deeply after every crop. Self pollination is also probably not the cause because I looked thoroughly for nanners across the plants and didn’t find any(one of the plants was in fact rather small, impossible to miss nanners if there was any). Besides, the plants never showed sympthoms of self pollination(like pistils tips turning brown).
I don’t use fertilizers, I grow using living soil method, so feeding is managed by the plant, they uptake whatever they want or need. I only make sure that the soil has the right amount of water in it.
I use air conditioner to keep temperature optimal. All tents have air renewal and circulation working well.
I use 18/6 for veg and 12/12 for flower. There are no light leaks during dark hours inside the tents, so light stress during flower is discarded.
Plants go through very little stress during the cycles, only mechanical stress from trainings or prunnig, but even when training or prunning the plants have all the leaves facing up like “praising the sun”. This condition maintains throughout the entire cycle, from the day they hatch until the day I cut them(reason why I stayed with living soil after the first time I tried it). What I mean is that they don’t seem to suffer or struggle, they are comfortable from beginning to end.
I’m starting to believe that it has something to do with the light. I use LED panels with Samsung LM201H 3500K+Red+IR+UV chips, but I was not able to find any information related to this. I think that it could be related to the spectum of the panel or to using to much potency(even though the plants didn’t foxtail or bleach).
Any thoughts?
If they are tiny and white, it is likely an ovule, which is a female part of the flower that waits to be pollinated. Some feminized strains have large ovules, but usually they shrivel up into nothing when maturing if not pollinated. It is a large reason why I don’t like feminized strains, as some can be quite large and pop when burning and taste similar to seed. Basically, if it is an ovule, it is normal and not a seed. If you dissect a bract and see the sitgma connected to it at the base of the bract on the inside, then it is an ovule.
Yeah could definitely be that. I don’t mess with fems much at all.
My only other thought is you had some nanners somewhere that you missed. I get that you looked everything over thoroughly, but sometimes the nanners are inside the flowers. So unless you’re literally picking apart the flowers on the growing plant, if you’re just looking at the outside of the flowers, you’ll probably never seen them. Not seen a ton of plants do that but definitely a few over just the last 5-ish years alone.
I also get you cleaned everything up prior to this run, but pollen is like glitter, it gets everywhere. And despite all the literature, I’ve seen 1-2 yr old errant pollen never stored correctly still pollinate plants…
That’s all I got 
I’d agree about the hidden nanners. Also, if they are seeds they sound very immature so they would have been pollinated late in the game and thus maybe even harder to see.
I disagree about pollen viability though. I’m very lazy about cleaning my tent even after a seed run, maybe a quick wipe down, and I’ve never had any troubles that way.
I pray nobody has to deal with swollen ovule genetics. It’s the worst. Some people don’t even notice them… or taste them… which completely surprises me when I smoke with friends. But it’s horrible, because it’s just normal female flowers except without a receding ovule towards the end of its life.
Also has the breeder truly worked the line to see if there intersex tendencies?
Were they from a reliable breeder ?
Some chem and diesel lines have a tendency for hermies
Just my 2 cents
Hi, thanks for replying! But wouldn’t that lead to “normal” pollination? I mean, wouldn’t that result in seeds with normal shape and size? I’ve had self pollinated plants before due to the appearence of nanners. Depending on wich week it happened you get either a mature ocre tiger-striped-looking seed or an immature pale green seed, or both, but in any case you get a seed the size of a seed.
In my case, I get both looks, the mature and the immature seed, but in miniature version, so it was pollinated by a mini-nanner? 
I will look deeper into what HolyAngel wrote above, check if I can dissect a bract and find the ovule.
I had one plant out of three hermie sour diesel from Blimburn Seeds. Great genetics still, big frosty buds, heavy hitter. But in that case I got self pollination and further forming of “normal” seeds.
This poppy seeds(or ovules) I’m getting appeared on Cream Caramel and Jack 47 from Sweet Seeds, and 2 stable genetics from Argentinian breeders, one of them is a clone that’ss sold by a company that only sells clones.
Hi! Thanks, I’ll look further into this
Agreed, i’ll scrap plants if i notice it.