Reversing males to make seeds?

Has anyone successfully reversed a male with ethyln like ethrepton? I’ve read a study that shows you can successfully grow female buds on the male plant and it can self pollenate. The study showed the male made seeds too, though small. No mention of if those seeds were change viable. Would be awesome to get guaranteed seeds from a seed preservation project assuming you get at least 1 germ.

Has anyone done this? How did it go?

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@Blue_Star_Seed_Co has there might be others who have

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I currently have a male that I let flower and finish its lifestyle and he shot out pistils and made seed. Kinda like a herm but not in a way? I breed with that male and the females are stable. Just like a last ditch effort kind of thing. I have seeds from that self that I’m currently popping

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Yes. Id recommended using 2 clones of the same male. One to reverse to female, the other to flower out normal to pollinate it.

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We’re the resulting seeds good? I’ve read a lot of people successfully doing it. But no one has said what happened to the seeds it made? Mainly, do they actually grow into healthy plants?

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Yes, killer. The goal was to capture the rks profile from the male and it did. One thing we thought was the offspring were going to be 25% female 75% male. But we found much closer to 50/50.







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Awesome! Thank you for sharing

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How would one go by getting “male-ized” seeds? Or will they always be closer to that 50/50 ratio.

I’m trying this now using florel with some old skunk seeds that only popped males. I’m at the start of flower now and have a couple sprays left.

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I had the same thing a few years ago.

Pollinated some females with one male, let him go late to evaluate him.
He got light poisoning from a friend and hermed a bit at the end. I found some seeds in his flowers bracts.
Both those herm seeds and the seeds he made with females before he got light poisoning were stable.

It’s made me wonder if reversing makes to make seeds is a better option than reversing females.

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Damn. Very cool…

Interesting. What if you hit a reversed male pistils with fem pollen?

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I only have this experience and what others have shared that actually did the experiment. They found 50/50 as well.

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Your still going to get some male and some female.Fem pollen is XX male pollen even when reversed is still XY so you are still putting males back into the Genepool.The ratio of this is something to be looked into.

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The ratio is what i was wondering because XY x XY gave them 50 50 still so…

As far as i remember a recently published paper y doesnt do much for males.

Even XX will be male until a certain Point of ethylene Inside the plant is reached.

But I have to take a Look, this is only a vague recount.

Regarding YY, maybe pollination cant actually produce anything out of Y Meeting Y.

YY spontaneously aborts I believe. Its not physically possible with out an x. You can have XXY, but not YY.

707 ShaBud is the one to ask he would know